Stroker Motors

[93zm6tally]

Are much more expensive than you think and machine work is a PITA.

That is all.

[96s10]

but it'll be worth it in the end mark. stay with it.

[SloNLo_350]

stay with it.
Definitely... I need Bo's cam.
But yeah, little stuff adds up quick, and as Brian said, you'll be happy once it's all done.

[sstony]

good news :wicked:

[93zm6tally]

Still looking at probably two more months. Heads just got put on order and a bunch of other stuff......$$$$$$$

Just some of the "extras"

LS1 Coils
LTCC Module and Brackets
New Headers (Jet Hot)
Mcleod Street Twin
New Heads (Ported Trick Flows)
New Valve Covers
New Wires
Gaskets (Custom Head Gaskets)
Tranny Upgrade Parts
New Tires
New Rear Slicks and wheels (tired of mis-matched wheels)
Suspension Parts (Adj LCA, Brackets, Panhard)

Shit.

[towelie]

It will all be worth it in the end

[slmdLS1]

Still looking at probably two more months. Heads just got put on order and a bunch of other stuff......$$$$$$$

Just some of the "extras"

LS1 Coils
LTCC Module and Brackets
New Headers (Jet Hot)
Mcleod Street Twin
New Heads (Ported Trick Flows)
New Valve Covers
New Wires
Gaskets (Custom Head Gaskets)
Tranny Upgrade Parts
New Tires
New Rear Slicks and wheels (tired of mis-matched wheels)
Suspension Parts (Adj LCA, Brackets, Panhard)

Shit.


sounds like you've spent a pretty penny already....check your pm's

[Bryan02TA]

quit crying Gramps! :mmk:

:mrgreen:

[93zm6tally]

Skinny boy. Tell the "old lady" I said hello.

[J8127]

454? 502? 800?

[TurboL67]

454? 502? 800?


383, foo!

or?

[93zm6tally]

389. About the largest bore I've heard about is a 408, and that would be leaving the walls way to thin as it is.

[TurboL67]

389. About the largest bore I've heard about is a 408, and that would be leaving the walls way to thin as it is.


sweet. any kind of FI going on the motor??

[J8127]

psh, sissy.







:mrgreen:

[4348rd]

love my 383

[JCswm]

love my 383
I wish I could find one in my yard!!!

[93zm6tally]

Maybe a little spray later on.

[4348rd]

Maybe a little spray later on.
when i get plates for 2 4's

[brandboZ28]

Maybe a little spray later on.
A little spray? You need to be using a bottle per pass with that bulletproof bottom end. :lol:

[Bryan02TA]

Skinny boy. Tell the "old lady" I said hello.
dont make me break out my guns bitch, and yes, i mean my arms. See you at pockets ;)

[CrazyBosnian]

I be ready :kinson:

[93zm6tally]

dont make me break out my guns bitch, and yes, i mean my arms. See you at pockets ;)

I let you win. I didn't want you to feel bad about getting beat by an old man.

[93zm6tally]

Here is the latest on the short block. I'm in a little bit of a problem because of my pistons being .016 in the whole. I can't really deck the block because of the depth of the o-ring grooves and my machinist tells me that making the grooves deeper is very difficult. I'd really like to be at about .035 quench which would mean I'd need a gasket about .020. Problem is that the gasket manufacturer doesn't recommend going that thin because the wire would cut through the gasket, they recommended no less than a .030 putting me at a better, (not optimum), 0.046 quench. I'm looking to find out if a standard composite gasket will fit within the diameter of the ring groove. Not easy because every LT1 gasket I've looked beside copper has a "D" shaped combustion chamber. I've got some Mr Gaskets head gaskets coming that I'm going to try. If that doesn't work I'm going to see what the gasket manufacturer says about running the copper gasket without the wire, maybe putting some RTV in the ring groove. If none of that works I live with the .046 quench and go with the .030 copper gasket.

All of this is slowing the project down even more. I can't get AI to start on the heads because they'll need to know how much to mill the heads to get the compression ratio I'm looking for, somewhere around 11.5 to 12:1. I should have the final numbers next week, order the heads and finally have the block home begining final assembly.

[lunati397]

got mine from Golen engines full forged for 3000 with warrenty cant beat that and its a beast

[lunati397]

Here is the latest on the short block. I'm in a little bit of a problem because of my pistons being .016 in the whole. I can't really deck the block because of the depth of the o-ring grooves and my machinist tells me that making the grooves deeper is very difficult. I'd really like to be at about .035 quench which would mean I'd need a gasket about .020. Problem is that the gasket manufacturer doesn't recommend going that thin because the wire would cut through the gasket, they recommended no less than a .030 putting me at a better, (not optimum), 0.046 quench. I'm looking to find out if a standard composite gasket will fit within the diameter of the ring groove. Not easy because every LT1 gasket I've looked beside copper has a "D" shaped combustion chamber. I've got some Mr Gaskets head gaskets coming that I'm going to try. If that doesn't work I'm going to see what the gasket manufacturer says about running the copper gasket without the wire, maybe putting some RTV in the ring groove. If none of that works I live with the .046 quench and go with the .030 copper gasket.

All of this is slowing the project down even more. I can't get AI to start on the heads because they'll need to know how much to mill the heads to get the compression ratio I'm looking for, somewhere around 11.5 to 12:1. I should have the final numbers next week, order the heads and finally have the block home begining final assembly.


How much dish do your pistons have and what heads are you going with the guys at AI are awsome by the way but you will need some flattops to achive a 12 to 1 or very little dish

My block has -16cc dish with a zero deck and my heads are milled to a 53 cc combustion chamber and that puts my comp ratio at 10.8 to 1 so its just over stock but I am also going to be running a 200 shot and latter on some lt4 heads and turbo. Good luck with your build you will love the TQ curve

[93zm6tally]

Yeap pistons are flat tops -5cc dish. Even with a less than optimal quench I'm looking at something between 11.3 and 12.0 to one. If I can't get the quench I want I'll err slightly more on the cautious side so that I don't have to worry about detonation. I'm also planning on hitting it with some Nitrous, probably a 200 shot. My LTCC box has a built in two stage timing retard so I've at least got a start. Fuel system is OK for now but I'll probably need to go to a slightly larger injector later, (I'm running 30lb SVO's right now).

[lunati397]

look into ractronix I got a set of the 37s that they have for 289 they have good prices and quality parts and they run great in my car

[93zm6tally]

look into ractronix I got a set of the 37s that they have for 289 they have good prices and quality parts and they run great in my car

Yeah I've talked to them. I'm not exactly happy with their fuel pump kit though. My pump has been not right since the day I installed it.

[Slow ET]

all this LT1 talk... and mines sitting on an engine stand waiting (and maybe being sold) :lol:

[rufaast]

Have you checked into Cometic gaskets,,
Im not a fan of of o-ringed blocks, too much trouble and with a good head gasket you dont need them anyways, espically on a street/strip motor.
If you want more compression , angle mill the heads, just be sure to angle mill the intake too, if your angle mill the heads alot.

[93zm6tally]

I checked with Cometic. The problem is the ring groove that I can't mill out without going with a completely different set of pistons, not to mention that milling out the grooves would put me around 8.086 deck height. Cometic want's a very smooth surface, getting them to seal over a .030 deep by .039 wide groove ain't going to work.

My heads haven't been done yet so I can pretty much be at any compression I want. Heads and intake will be done by the same shop so angle milling if necessary won't be a problem. Shouldn't have a need though I'm probably looking at a 58-60cc combustion chamber. I believe the heads come with a 62cc chamber from the factory, (TrickFlow).

[rufaast]

who is/has done your machine work onyour block etc?

[93zm6tally]

Hitec Machine Albany GA. (Block)

Heads are from Advanced Induction NC.

[lunati397]

you have to be carful with that a head can be milled so much and then it starts loosing its geometry and wont fit up right thats the problem i ran into with mine AFRs couldnt be milled down to a 53 cc chamber with out loosing alot of what makes them good and I would have had to have the intake milled to match the angle so thats why I am on a set of stock head ported out to all hell

[rufaast]

manufacture of the head will state max value to angle mill

[93zm6tally]

Heads will not have to be milled very much, but as I mentioned the intake will be at AI with the heads. Phil will make sure that the intake and head are properly matched. Milling the intake is not a very complicated operation. Intake will also be port matched to the heads and all surfaces will be checked for proper mating so that I don't have to worry about intake/head leaks.

[brandboZ28]

Awesome, Mark. Im just glad youre finally getting it all together. Hopefully, Ill be able to head down that way in a couple weeks to help with the tear down and any other little "down time stuff" that needs to be taken care of.

[lunati397]

cant wait to see what you get with the AI setup they get some monster numbers from thier heads I plan on having them do some trickflows for me