I got nabbed.

[Greg Kulbick]

48 in a 30 and improper lane change on Tennessee right past the McDonalds on the way into work this morning. Bike cop pulled me over and asked for my license and the year of the car. No registration or insurance.Asked my why I was driving aggressivly, I said I was in a hurry to get to work. He takes about ten minutes filling out the tickets and comes back saying he decided to write me two tickets instead of taking me to jail. That one was new to me. Then he said I needed to quit driving like that or I'd continue to get tickets. Continue to get tickets? I haven't even been pulled over since 2001. He cut me no slack, didn't even take four mph off to get it under 15 mph over. I thought most people gave you a break if you had a clean record.

They were all over the place this morning too, saw at least three other cars pulled over after they got me and I went on my way.

[SS2win]

that sux. I've been riding along on tennesee just keeping up with traffic and notices that we're doing 50 easy so maybe that gave the department wood to get out there and slow em down...

[RACER1269]

sorry to hear that bud, but that is what you get........... for not adding me on your myspace :lol:

j/k i blew through a stop sign (scca style) on lake bradford other week. FHP nabbed me. ask why i didnt stop i was like "i could have stopped a little longer i guess" then he said .... stop ?? i dont think you even hit your brake pedal. . . he was right. :lol: then he came back and gave me a ticket for not having a upto date inusrance card. its like $7.80 . the stop sign ticket would have been like $128 he siad.

how much is your schit gonna be ?
cheer up its FRIDAY !!! :mike:

[tomwid]

That blows dood. Cops got nothing better to do these days.

[Greg Kulbick]

$120.50 for the improper lane change and $185.50 for the speeding. Start buying my shit people...

[vortechstang]

That sucks, Greg. I don't understand why the guy took so long to process everything. TPD has the scanners for the licenses now, (they just swipe the license like a credit card), and it literally takes like 5 seconds to run the license and print the ticket. It does sound like you got pulled over by a dickhead, especially since he had no grounds to take you to jail, (he is just trying to sound like a badass). My father usually rounds down to the lower speed, (less than 15 over), unless it is some outrageous speed.

[tibster]

Sorry to hear that greg. Yeah they was bad this morning on Gaines st also.

[SS2win]

maybe yellow is like red to the cop

[Greg Kulbick]

That would make sense if I got a lot of tickets. I haven't even been pulled over in over four years. I was certainly not the only car at that pace, hell, there was a girl in a Neon riding my ass.

[Greg Kulbick]

Derek, make some calls, help a brother out.

[tomwid]

If you don't think he can prove that you were speeding beyond a resonable doubt, take that shit to court! That's exactly what I did and I got off cuz the stoopid cop didn't even show up (I would have gotten off even if he did show up)!


That would make sense if I got a lot of tickets. I haven't even been pulled over in over four years. I was certainly not the only car at that pace, hell, there was a girl in a Neon riding my ass.

[burnoutking999]

was it tpd or sherriffs? I know some people that may can help but ill have to check. Take it to court and maybe he wont show or you can come up with an awesome story.

[Greg Kulbick]

TPD, he'll show up, they get paid like time and a half on their court days.

[4348rd]

man that sucks greg you would have been better taking a day off
and I bet the girl in the neon didn't even pull your hair did she

[DerekFSU]

Derek, make some calls, help a brother out.

Got it all worked out for you. Just visit www.floridadrivingschool.com.

[Greg Kulbick]

lol

Use my time of need to pimp your site...

I had planned on using yours regardless.

[DerekFSU]

lol

Use my time of need to pimp your site...

I had planned on using yours regardless.

All proceeds from your unlawful woes will go towards:

A) New Orleans hurricane victims who chose not to leave

B) UFC PPV

[slowLX]

B) UFC PPV:tu: when?

[Greg Kulbick]

All proceeds from your unlawful woes will go towards:

A) New Orleans hurricane victims who chose not to leave

B) UFC PPV

A) Fuck them.

B) Sweet.

[sstony]

ouch--sorry for your luck. that's gonna hurt the wallet big time--but i'll still buy you some beers. next time don't speed and use your blinkers and/or dont' change lanes in an intersection.

[Riceman]

I'm not against cops, and I've been let off a number of times, but the last time I was pulled I got a 90 in a 70. I posted the story in another thread, but the point was I wasn't even going 90, I was going 84 unless somehow my cruise control arbitrarily and speedo decided to be 6 mph off that day. No tickets, no outstandings, no priors. No remorse. His method of detection was "pacing," not even a radar. Fuck that cocksucking piece of shit. If he'd gotten me for 84, I'd have been upset, but with myself. When he lied and didn't give me a break, I got a lawyer. No more ticket, no more points. Paid more up front, but my insurance thanks me... for 3 years.

[Greg Kulbick]

He never took my insurance or registration.

[thetastelingers]

fuk dood!
that is alot of dough to drop on tickets!

so I know on the way to taco bell at lunch to keep a watch out... :slowet:

[Greg Kulbick]

ouch--sorry for your luck. that's gonna hurt the wallet big time--but i'll still buy you some beers. next time don't speed and use your blinkers and/or dont' change lanes in an intersection.

I was going with the flow of traffic, it was quarter to eight on a weekday morning on Tennessee St., there were cars all around me. I just happened to be the one turning off onto another street.

[Greg Kulbick]

Oh yeah, Brian, rent just went up.

[TurboStutr]

sorry to hear about the chitty luck greg...and with that cop it sounds like you were screwed from the beginning

[Greg Kulbick]

I was nothing but courteous the entire time until he said he decided to write me two tickets instead of haul me off to jail. That's when I looked at him funny and said. "That's a new one".

[Patrick]

Sorry to hear about your luck. What an asshole.

[tedness]

shit, selling your seats alone now won't cover it. but...hmmm...

seats and calipers might....

[Greg Kulbick]

Give me $325 and I'll give you the seats, calipers and a-pillar and pod.

[Firehawk6998]

i've never heard good things about TPD. sorry man.

i've always been lucky on my stupid days. like the day i was drunk and left aj's....raced a gto from red to red, from white drive until were sstony works, mazda place past cap cir....we saw blue, i was ahead...he got pulled, i never let off of it.

[tedness]

Give me $325 and I'll give you the seats, calipers and a-pillar and pod.

i have to get some of my other money from people first...but it is tempting. if nothing happens between now and then i'll give you a buzz.

[Snow]

IANAL. If it was me, I'd go to court and see if the cop shows up. If he does, I'd ask for adjudication and pay the fine. Contrary to popular belief, TPD officers don't always show up... and of course, if EVERYONE did this, there'd be a lot less tickets... and also, this is exactly what a lawyer would do for you, except charge you for his "legal expertise"

[Greg Kulbick]

What do you mean ask for adjudication?

[4348rd]

What do you mean ask for adjudication?
keeps it off your record

[Tally TransAm]

you actually ask for adjucation withheld when you plea no contest, you can sometimes do it on a criminal case as well. its basically like saying your right, my bad, now please be leniant (sp)

if you have a clean record for a while the judge (if he is not in a bad mood) will most likely make you pay the fine but you wont get points

i usually select a court date as far off as possible, and both you and the cop are allowed one reschedule, so about 10 days before the date i reschedule it for as far off as possible again. this does two things, usually you can get 3-4 months out of a reschedule which if your lucky will allow your insurance renewal to come up before the court date so the rates wont go up by then. two it gives a better chance of the cop saying fuck it and not showing up since most cops like to schedule most of their cases on the same day and rescheduling will fuck that up. plus ive gotten lucky twice and rescheduled to a day the cop was on vacation (case dismissed). if they do show up just dress nice, apologize, and ask for adj withheld and hope the judge ditches the points

[Greg Kulbick]

you actually ask for adjucation withheld
That's what I was thinking when he said to ask for adjudication. How do I get a court date?

[tomwid]

Absolutely. A lot of people just say f*-it and pay, go to school etc... City wins, insurance wins, people that give traffic school wins, BUT you LOSE. End of story.

If people start taking their shit to court, more cases would be dismissed, less cops would be giving out BULLSHIT tickets, and will actually write good ones.

Speeding is horseshit if you're going w/ the flow of traffic, there's nothing dangerous about it (edit: but don't use this as an excuse in court :lol: ).

Running stop signs/redlights, racing, road rage... now that's a different story.

Edit: it would especially piss me off if the cop threatened to take me to jail etc. WTF? I'd use that shit against him in court!


IANAL. If it was me, I'd go to court and see if the cop shows up. If he does, I'd ask for adjudication and pay the fine. Contrary to popular belief, TPD officers don't always show up... and of course, if EVERYONE did this, there'd be a lot less tickets... and also, this is exactly what a lawyer would do for you, except charge you for his "legal expertise"

[thetastelingers]

some good advice in here.
thanks guys.

[scooby]

sorry to hear that hope the weekend gets better for ya

[redmach1]

sux to hear, man.

[Sandstone VR-4]

Actually I know someone who did this:

Scheduled a court date.

Called the PD everyday and asked for ticketing officer until he figured out the officer's days off.

Cancelled original court date due to "death in the family".

Rescheduled court date for officer's next day off.


The cop didn't show. Ticket was thrown out.

[RACER1269]

only thing is, dont they have changing schedules? i guess you cal llike days before? then do a emergancy delay?

[Greg Kulbick]

I went to court today. I plead no contest to the speeding ticket and contested the improper lane change based on there being no mention of needing to signal in the statute he cited on the ticket. The hearing officer started flipping through pages and agreed that it didn't say you needed to signal. All of a sudden I was driving wrecklessly too. The hearing officer stated that he usually dismisses tickets with that statute unless there's an accident so the officer pipes up with "Well you're the boss...", obviously pissed off. He was all set for me to contest the speeding ticket, I think I caught him off guard when I pleaded no contest and instead challenged the improper lane change based on the statute. So now the officer is saying that he told me he was going to write me tickets for speeding, improper lane change and wreckless driving because I almost hit the car in front of me and cut off the car behind me when I changed to the right lane. I explained to the hearing officer that I was told of only two infractions when I was pulled over, no mention was made of the wreckless driving ticket or near misses of two accidents. The hearing officer said that in teh statute cited on teh ticket, the driver has to make sure its safe before changing lanes, and it doesn't sound like it was. I then told the hearing officer that it was 7:40 on a weekday morning on Tennessee St West of Copeland, the right lane emptied towards campus and a lane change into the right lane before Macomb was safe enough to the point that the officer had enough room to pull in behind me before I even came to a complete stop at the red light at Macomb. He was obviously upset and getting a little huffy about the whole thing. The hearing officer said he wasn't ready to make a decision and that I had to call back on Friday. So hopefully he'll note the officer's attitude change and new parts to the story after I pointed that I wasn't in violation of the statute he used on the ticket.

[scooby]

awsome good luck with it

[slowLX]

Nice, I hope you stick it to the man!

[sonny]

gl, stick it to the man......*hopes no cop pulls me over*

[v8minus2]

good luck. i've never had a questionable ticket. everytime i've been pulled over i knew i was in the wrong and couldn't even give a reasonable answer to my stupidity on the road.

[Supradedupra]

Good luck man :tup:

[slmdLS1]

Good luck. Tell them youre not always right, but youre never wrong!

[tomwid]

How come you weren't in front of a judge? What's the difference between a hearing officer and a judge?

Just went through this w/ my GF, she just went to court for a ticket she got 2 months ago.

2 things I can confirm (with the current judge anyways):

1. if you ask for adjudication withheld, you will get it.
2. TPD officers WILL SHOW UP. :slowet:

[Greg Kulbick]

I asked for ajudication withheld on the speeding ticket. The clerk mistakenly marked that I plead not guilty on that infraction and I've already called to have that cleared up so that I can take the school and avoid the points.

I've also learned that TPD recieves grant money based on the number of aggressive driving citations they issue. By statute, two citations need to be issued at the same time in order to mark them "aggressive". This leads to a whole lot of BS second citations that fall under the aggressive driving statute to facillitate getting more grant money. Be sure to read the statutes cited on your tickets carefully and remember specifically what the officer said you were recieving that citation for. The "Aggressive careless driving" statute is 316.1923 and contains a lists of the violations that can be used together to add the notation.

I think I have a 50/50 chance on the improper lane change getting dismissed after the officers reaction in the court room to me beating him on the statute alone causing him to add new testimony after the fact. Even if I have to pay it, it was worth seeing his reaction and hearing the female cop sitting behind me whisper "Ooh he's got him beat" to another officer. The acoustics in that court room are pretty good.

[TurboStutr]

atta boy greg...sounds like you got a pretty good chance here.

[tomwid]

Greg, can you clear up a few things? Not sure why you need to take the school if adjudication was withheld and the judge made you pay the fine.

Here's what I learned recently in traffic court:

Judge asks the WHOLE courtroom and says, "anyone pleading no contest come up NOW", he then goes through the cases, reviews seriousness and grants 100% adjudication withheld and makes everyone pay the fine. On a few "school zone" tickets, he orders that they pay the fine in addition to attending a "driver improvement" school. That only happened to 1 dude in the whole courtroom.

Adjudication withheld (according to the clerk) = no points on your record, no insurance notification, and no traffic school necessary UNLESS ordered by the judge.

Is this accurate? Or did I misunderstand her explanation?

edit:
I find these amusing:

318.14 Noncriminal traffic infractions; exception; procedures.--
(always sign the damned ticket)
(3) Any person who willfully refuses to accept and sign a summons is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree.

(this is why I think no points; no school necessary unless ordered by judge)
(11) If adjudication is withheld for any person charged or cited under this section, such action is not a conviction.

this is interesting too.. if you can't afford to pay, you can work it off!
318.18 Amount of civil penalties.--
(b) Any person who fails to comply with the court's requirements as to civil penalties specified in this section due to demonstrable financial hardship shall be authorized to satisfy such civil penalties by public works or community service...

[Snow]

Greg, can you clear up a few things? Not sure why you need to take the school if adjudication was withheld and the judge made you pay the fine.

Here's what I learned recently in traffic court:

Judge asks the WHOLE courtroom and says, "anyone pleading no contest come up NOW", he then goes through the cases, reviews seriousness and grants 100% adjudication withheld and makes everyone pay the fine. On a few "school zone" tickets, he orders that they pay the fine in addition to attending a "driver improvement" school. That only happened to 1 dude in the whole courtroom.

Adjudication withheld (according to the clerk) = no points on your record, no insurance notification, and no traffic school necessary UNLESS ordered by the judge.

Is this accurate? Or did I misunderstand her explanation?


You actually think any of those women know anything about traffic? Btw, what did this woman look like?

[Greg Kulbick]

I was contesting the other ticket, so I didn't go up at the beginning. For everyone pleading no contest, he ordered them to take the defensive driving school and pay the fine. The class is what gets rid of the points.

[Snow]

Lemme guess, judge Monoset? (SP?)

[tomwid]

Fat, white chick w/ brown hair, kinda young, her name is Amber. The judge explained in the beginning that adjudication withheld means withholding judgement and it also means no points on license.


You actually think any of those women know anything about traffic? Btw, what did this woman look like?

[tomwid]

Forgot his name, he was a younger black dood, late 30s maybe?


Lemme guess, judge Monoset? (SP?)

[tomwid]

LOL he must have been in a shitty mood that day.


I was contesting the other ticket, so I didn't go up at the beginning. For everyone pleading no contest, he ordered them to take the defensive driving school and pay the fine. The class is what gets rid of the points.

[Snow]

Forgot his name, he was a younger black dood, late 30s maybe?

That would be Roberts, and he is only an attorney acting as a hearing officer for the county and not an official "judge".

Also, even though the insurance company is not notified, they can still run a query and see if you have anything new on your record, such as adjudication withheld, and it's up to them whether they raise your rates or not.

And it seems Amber is *mostly* right - I asked my g/f about it.

Btw, my g/f was the traffic court clerk who attended all traffic hearings - she worked in that place for about 3 years.

[Greg Kulbick]

I had two tickets, one I contested, one I didn't. I think that's where the confusion on the not guilty plea on the slip I received for the speeding ticket came from.

[Greg Kulbick]

Or not.

He decided that even though I plead no contest, he wanted my plea on the speeding ticket changed to not guilty so he could find me guilty and make sure the points stuck. Then he decided that the improper lane change was guilty too. See what four years of safe driving gets you?

Whatever, $150 is worth making a cop get pissed and lie under oath in a court room.

In case he's reading, an LCSO told me two months you would lie in court when I challenged you and he was right. Most cops around here don't like you.

[pendrgn]

Or not.

He decided that even though I plead no contest, he wanted my plea on the speeding ticket changed to not guilty so he could find me guilty and make sure the points stuck. Then he decided that the improper lane change was guilty too. See what four years of safe driving gets you?

Whatever, $150 is worth making a cop get pissed and lie under oath in a court room.

In case he's reading, an LCSO told me two months you would lie in court when I challenged you and he was right. Most cops around here don't like you.
that sucks man... I learned a long time ago, safe driving does not pay...

and the take you to jail part, I had cops tell me that before, I usually laugh... and they get pissed, I once told the officer to take me, and challenged him on it, they are full of shit... and if you dont believe anyone could be so bold to a cop, look at my record, 40 tickets, 4 times in class, 1 time a 12 hour class, I have played the system so much I am not afraid of it anymore...

oh well, tallahasee I admit has teh stupidess cops, they are not aware of their own laws, it is funny, that is how I get out of most of my stuff...

mostly I just pay it, a few tickets paid is worth the 365 days I drive like I want to, crazy... :taunt:

[tomwid]

Damn that sucks dood. WTF happened to make him want to throw the book @ you like that? I'm kinda glad my GF went there when she did, maybe his mood wasn't so shitty that day.


Or not.

He decided that even though I plead no contest, he wanted my plea on the speeding ticket changed to not guilty so he could find me guilty and make sure the points stuck. Then he decided that the improper lane change was guilty too. See what four years of safe driving gets you?

Whatever, $150 is worth making a cop get pissed and lie under oath in a court room.

In case he's reading, an LCSO told me two months you would lie in court when I challenged you and he was right. Most cops around here don't like you.

[Greg Kulbick]

Damn that sucks dood. WTF happened to make him want to throw the book @ you like that? I'm kinda glad my GF went there when she did, maybe his mood wasn't so shitty that day.
From what I hear, the cops don't like him much because he's known to throw out their BS tickets more than the other guys, so I surmise he's trying to get back in their good graces. My ticketing officer was quite huffy and noticably angry when the hearing officer said he normally dismisses those tickets. I'm sure the officer talked to him afterwards about it, to add even more to the story when I wasn't around to rebut everything he said as I handily did in the courtroom.

[RACER1269]

From what I hear, the cops don't like him much because he's known to throw out their BS tickets more than the other guys, so I surmise he's trying to get back in their good graces.or maybe he reads this web forum and knows who you are. :shrug:

ive learned the hard way in the past. young guy, fast mustang ..... your automatically in the wrong. sometimes you might get off but odds are against it .... especially with the new and more strict fines for traffic violations. who knows ....

[Greg Kulbick]

Based on the officer's original testimony and the what the statute says, I did nothing illegal. Once this was brought to light, the officer added new testimony after the fact to try and make it fit the statute, which I was still able to refute. I'd say that's pretty clear cut.

Also taken into account is the fact that you're an idiot.

[RACER1269]

Based on the officer's original testimony and the what the statute says, I did nothing illegal. Once this was brought to light, the officer added new testimony after the fact to try and make it fit the statute, which I was still able to refute. I'd say that's pretty clear cut.

Also taken into account is the fact that you're an idiot.
hmmm im not the one that took it to court and lost. fact is you were speeding and improperly changed lanes. sometimes when we grow up we learn to admit when we are wrong..... but i forgot your "never wrong" sorry that you lost never the less.
Merry Christmas n e way :tup:

[Greg Kulbick]

The fact of the matter is that I plead no contest to the speeding and that I didn't in fact change lanes improperly. Had you any sense of intelligence, you would have read the posts and seen that the officer had to lie in court in order to beat an argument based on statute alone. Stop being a retard and read everything. I admitted to speeding and challeneged the improper lane change BECAUSE I WASN'T WRONG. You can stop now. If you're really intent on showing us time and again just how much of a moron you really are, come to one of the meets and punch yourself in the balls. I'm growing tired of having to point out your idiocy day in and day out. Die.

[pendrgn]

I love improper lane changes :) it is how I drive... that is all... merry xmas

[RACER1269]

so then almighty, what was it that made your lane change improper to the cop?

[tomwid]

Probably nothing, some a-hole cops just like to tack on x-tra violations to make a point. It's a power trip thing. If he was ticked off in the slightest for some reason, I can see the cop getting carried away.

I was a correctional officer for 3 1/2 years, yes... it's considered law enforcement, and believe me when I tell you, some of these (law enforcement) guys get a kick out of "strong arming" someone.

Some judges understand that, some don't. The ones that don't will always side with the cop instead of the law. So remember, just cuz that guys a cop, doesn't make him a saint.


so then almighty, what was it that made your lane change improper to the cop?

[ArtyG]

If you're really intent on showing us time and again just how much of a moron you really are, come to one of the meets and punch yourself in the balls. I'm growing tired of having to point out your idiocy day in and day out. Die.BWAHAHAHAHA. :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:

[RACER1269]

If you're really intent on showing us time and again just how much of a moron you really are, come to one of the meets and punch yourself in the balls. I'm growing tired of having to point out your idiocy day in and day out. Die.
what calender are you working off of budd. umm i havnt gave you a problem in like a month. that is hardly day in and day out ..... :roll: your always about the nuts too aint ya ..... :shrug:
just yanking your chain for the holidays so dont get all happy and thinking im back, its just that i was bored today and your too easy ......
Merry Christmas :tup:

[Greg Kulbick]

so then almighty, what was it that made your lane change improper to the cop?
Apparently you missed the whole part about second citations during a stop so they can tack on the aggressive driving notation to get grant money for the department. Do I have to spell everything out for you?

[RACER1269]

well there must have been enough reason by the judge to justify the second ticket spell that one out :roll: sure they can add second tickets, matter of fact the more your a dick the more the chance they will give you more tickets. i usually have more than one thing wrong and seem to only get a warning for the other. if your anything in real life as you are on here im sure you rubbed the guy the wrong way, even if you think you were polite. that and the mustang that is sure guilt in court. and yes i have had a deputy lie in court too against me. sorry for your misfortune just try to remeber and learn from the lesson wether they be right or wrong.
Merry Christmas :tup:




btw Amber came and hung out with us the other nite ....why didnt you come out? :shrug:

[Greg Kulbick]

Read all the posts you moronic simpleton. I was not wrong based on the statute, an LEO told me two montsh ago that this officer would lie in court and he did. You are an idiot and I hope beyond all hopes that you die a horribly painful death in a time very short from right now.

[RACER1269]

Read all the posts you moronic simpleton. I was not wrong based on the statute, an LEO told me two montsh ago that this officer would lie in court and he did. You are an idiot and I hope beyond all hopes that you die a horribly painful death in a time very short from right now.then take it to the supreme court numbnuts..... oh yeah 10 fold back atcha on the death wish there uhhhh Charles Bronson ..... :roll:

[Greg Kulbick]

Your idiocy abounds. Everytime you post, you reaffirm everyones beliefs in just how stupid you are.

[RACER1269]

i think its more funny that you keep arguing with me ..... :lol:
im sure we all get the real picture :tup:

[slowLX]

http://www.tallyimports.com/images/smilies/threadlocked.gif

[Greg Kulbick]

This isn't arguing, its you proving your retardedness. You would have to have an ioda of sense, be half way intelligent and make argumentative points for this to be an argument. You're not even smart enough to know what you're doing, you illiterate fuck.

[ArtyG]

:arty:...
...DOH..., er, um http://www.tallyimports.com/images/smilies/threadlocked.gif!

[RACER1269]

This isn't arguing, its you proving your retardedness. You would have to have an ioda of sense, be half way intelligent and make argumentative points for this to be an argument. You're not even smart enough to know what you're doing, you illiterate fuck.
its funny how when someone picks with you, you cant take it and then atempt to call them 5th grade names and wish death upon them. and regardless of what you call this it is arguing and you suck at it. maybe i should just learn my lesson and go find someone more phunn to play with. why dont you get back with me when you have better material. :shrug:

[towelie]

....

[Greg Kulbick]

its funny how when someone picks with you, you cant take it and then atempt to call them 5th grade names and wish death upon them. and regardless of what you call this it is arguing and you suck at it. maybe i should just learn my lesson and go find someone more phunn to play with. why dont you get back with me when you have better material. :shrug:
This is where the problem lies. You think you're picking on me, poking fun, giving a good ribbing even. The rest of us think you're an idiot. You're on the same list as Rosie O'Donnell. I don't care if you don't die, but if you did, I'd be able to brush it off like a stock I don't own plummetting. People make fun of me just like I do to them and I can take it stride just like anyone else. Your constant yammering does nothing but cause little strokes in people's heads from trying to comprehend the failed attempts at points you try to make.

[MF-DIF]

WTF lmao!!