Got Moser axles?

[Gt]

http://www.nmraracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42914

Thread was started due to someone seeing the mustang break both axles at the c-clip elmins.

http://bbs.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=29590

[Cruizer]

Just put new Moser axles, and gears, bearings, etc in with an Eaton POSI. No problems so far, but these aren't c-clip eliminators either....

[Slow ET]

i thought c-clip eliminators were not intended for a high HP car like that?

[Gt]

c-clip elimins are required @ 10.99 and faster. Never heard anyone say they wouldn't be intended for high hp. It's the same as a 9" end.

[Tally TransAm]

hope mine dont do that

[Cruizer]

i thought c-clip eliminators were not intended for a high HP car like that?

These cars came factory 450 HP with c-clips. I'm not too worried, rear end seems tight. I don't get on it that much, besides, with street tires its hard to hook anyway....

[NotoriousGreaseMonkey]

Any rearend will break no matter if it is C clips or not with enough abuse. When I worked at Silveys we had a 1500+ HP mud truck that ran a Dana 44 front and a 10bolt in the rear. They never broke either one. Proper setup is also a BIG part of not breaking. That is why I always said take your gears to Joe to have them done. If he can set up a 10 bolt to take 1500+ HP then I know he can set up ya'lls on here to last. BTW that is a 10 bolt with 44" cut boggers on it.

[Tally TransAm]

traction > mud

was this back when silveys used to swap cars with c&w without telling the customer

[Silvey's]

I haven't been here in a few months and I see Tally Is steal pissed about what C&W did too him. You know if your goning to run your mouth a least tell the truth and blame the correct company! It's not my fault C&W wanted me to do your diff, It's your because you didn't do enougth checking before you toke your car to Shawn at C&W. Thats who you should be mad at not me I was just doing what someone hired me for. We have shop from all over town that bring there customers cars to us so it not unusual for that to happen its the shop responsablity to tell there customers where there car is. So like I said before blame the rigth party and thats not me. Joe

[aparker813]

the thread lives!

[J8127]

the thread lives!

Who the fuck are you, anyway?

[Gt]

Who the fuck are you, anyway?

http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11245

why don't you fucking read, before being an ass to someone :mrgreen:

[J8127]

http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11245

why don't you fucking read, before being an ass to someone :mrgreen:

lol,
:owned:

oh wait shit...thats me

[slowLX]

Who the fuck are you, anyway?is it that time of the month?

[Greg Kulbick]

I haven't been here in a few months and I see Tally Is steal pissed about what C&W did too him. You know if your goning to run your mouth a least tell the truth and blame the correct company! It's not my fault C&W wanted me to do your diff, It's your because you didn't do enougth checking before you toke your car to Shawn at C&W. Thats who you should be mad at not me I was just doing what someone hired me for. We have shop from all over town that bring there customers cars to us so it not unusual for that to happen its the shop responsablity to tell there customers where there car is. So like I said before blame the rigth party and thats not me. Joe

You spell badly.
Ryan took his car to Paul. He didn't take his car to Shawn or to you. You saying its ok for Shawn to drive Ryans car to another shop to have someone other than who who he expected to do the work, do the work?

[slmdLS1]

lol,
:owned:

oh wait shit...thats me

are you on drugs? he's been here for nearly 3 months.

[Gt]

You spell badly.
Ryan took his car to Paul. He didn't take his car to Shawn or to you. You saying its ok for Shawn to drive Ryans car to another shop to have someone other than who who he expected to do the work, do the work?

No, Ryan took the car to C&W. Shawn told Ryan they could do it, Paul didn't want anything to do with it. So Shawn took it to C&W, not Paul.

[slmdLS1]

You spell badly.
Ryan took his car to Paul. He didn't take his car to Shawn or to you. You saying its ok for Shawn to drive Ryans car to another shop to have someone other than who who he expected to do the work, do the work?

i agree with joe that it isnt his fault, he's not saying its ok. paul passed it off to shawn probably to take to silveys, how would silveys know ryan didnt want anyone else touching the car.

[Greg Kulbick]

Yeah, did Ryan expect anyone but Paul to work on it? Did this guy have no problem working on a car knowing the owner had no idea it was even there and that someone completely different was to be doing the work?

[Greg Kulbick]

i agree with joe that it isnt his fault, he's not saying its ok. paul passed it off to shawn probably to take to silveys, how would silveys know ryan didnt want anyone else touching the car.

If I saw a car like Ryan's show up and the person asking me to do work to it wasn't the owner, I'd want to talk to the owner of the car.

[Gt]

Joe (Silvey's) probably had no idea that Ryan didn't know and that Ryan didn't want anyone else touching it.

[Greg Kulbick]

Our cars aren't Civics. If someone was brought my car by someone else, I'd want them to ask me to explain the work to be done.

[slmdLS1]

Our cars aren't Civics. If someone was brought my car by someone else, I'd want them to ask me to explain the work to be done.

sure you would, your point is understandable to those of us who are anal about our cars/bikes/trucks. but how was he supposed to know? for all he knew ryan ok'd it with shawn for silveys to work on it.

[Greg Kulbick]

Because he should have spoken to the owner himself with a car like that.

[slmdLS1]

Because he should have spoken to the owner himself with a car like that.


"with a car like that" lol. if he took it to another shop like c&w he should have no problem with silveys....or so joe thought.

(we might have known otherwise, but were we there to say so? no.)

[Greg Kulbick]

Paul works on a lot of muscle cars, cars were going to him before he was at "a shop like C&W". Silveys was known for working on trucks.

[slmdLS1]

Paul works on a lot of muscle cars, cars were going to him before he was at "a shop like C&W". Silveys was known for working on trucks.

paul isnt shy about saying he hates rear end work. he "is known" as you put it for building trannies not rear ends. silveys does rear end work A LOT in trucks, paul does not.

[Greg Kulbick]

Is Ryan's car a truck? Do they work on Trans Ams a lot?

[slmdLS1]

Is Ryan's car a truck? Do they work on Trans Ams a lot?
i bet they work on 9" ford rears a lot yes. now ask yourself, does paul work on trans ams with ford rears a lot? obviously not since he took it elsewhere without telling joe or asking ryan.

[Gt]

Ryan's car didn't have the 9" at the time this happened.

And Brandon, I know you have a problem with Paul but as its been pointed out several times in 2 threads now. Shawn took it to Silvey's, Paul never wanted the job in the shop. Shawn set it up.

[J8127]

Is this the nrg shawn that people loved so much?

[Greg Kulbick]

Answered in Tony's post.

Which brings up my next point: How many 7.5" reared boggers did they work on?

[Greg Kulbick]

Is this the nrg shawn that people loved so much?
No. He was fine, just wasn't as apt at running a business as he was at making his car fast.

[slmdLS1]

Ryan's car didn't have the 9" at the time this happened.

And Brandon, I know you have a problem with Paul but as its been pointed out several times in 2 threads now. Shawn took it to Silvey's, Paul never wanted the job in the shop. Shawn set it up.

he(joe) said he was doing his diff, i thought thats what ryan was having done...the 9" gears setup or some kind of rear end work.

i really dont have a prob with paul at all, i had him do work for me several times,i also went with brett when he was having his IRS done...he had issues with the way paul handled that though. i know some personal things that went down with him hearing it from lisa, but that doesnt affect his work imo.

[Gt]

he(joe) said he was doing his diff, i thought thats what ryan was having done...the 9" gears setup or some kind of rear end work.

i really dont have a prob with paul at all, i had him do work for me several times,i also went with brett when he was having his IRS done...he had issues with the way paul handled that though. i know some personal things that went down with him hearing it from lisa, but that doesnt affect his work imo.

6-10-04 original post about Ryan/Shawn prob
http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4621&highlight=c%26w


9-8-04 Ryan just got the 9" and was setting it up.
http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5554

7-18-05 I made a post about Paul being back open. You piped in with this post leading me to believe you had a problem with Paul personally, not just professionally.
http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=124412&postcount=4


after hearing all about him, and bretts IRS being fucked up, no thanks.


In that same thread, Ryan made this post.
http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=124449&postcount=16


fyi paul setup my 9" and its 100% quiter than when moser did

[slmdLS1]

refering to silveys....in the 1st link you posted
but i understand they didnt have any part in this so i kinda go easy on them so i guess ryan didnt blame silveys then but does now? :shrug:

3rd link, i really dont know paul personally so i cant say i have a problem with him on that level. but the work i had for him was before bretts ordeal. i think its best for me to shy away so that situation doesnt happen to me. i guess i shoulda clarified when i stopped looking at him for work. if i knew paul like you do, i probably would still use him a lot as i know you always have/do.

as for gears, and im not saying this to argue. bretts whine(d) and usually they(gears) are hit or miss right? isnt moser known for whining straight form the factory?

[J8127]

you know on a lighter side, I just noticed that the guy said his mustang was going to make 1200-1300 FWhp

[Gt]

as for gears, and im not saying this to argue. bretts whine(d) and usually they(gears) are hit or miss right? isnt moser known for whining straight form the factory?

I dunno, I've never used Moser and I've never ordered a complete rear end 9" chunk so I I have no idea if they are known for whining from the factory. I've personally just always ordered FMS/FRPP gears due to reading problems with other gear manufacturers on the net.

As for the rest of this, I think its about time it was drop'd. No need for people that weren't directly involved in it to be arguing about it over a year later on a forum.

[93zm6tally]

I've got Moser axles, rear end and gears. I don't honestly know if the axles have C Clip eliminators or not. I thought that they did, but I'd have to look to be sure. I just got done buttoning up the cover, so it will have to wait until I pull the cover again.

[Gt]

You can tell if you have c-clip eliminators if you had to have a bearing pressed on the axle and bolt the flange to the rear end.

[93zm6tally]

Don't remember for sure about that one. Last one who put gears in my car is Carlton, who by the way hooked me up earlier this week. Sold me a new 5/6 driven gear for 30, (199 on the Internet), and called ManTran for me who sold me a new 5th gear for the same price that I would have paid from an Internet supplier. ManTran isn't very interested btw in selling to the public, but if you call the right guy he can hook you up with parts. That place should be making a killing, while I was there the guy was on the phone with people all over the country looking for trannies. Very large shop and lots of people working there.

[Tally TransAm]

wow this thread got big quick

to clear it up. i went and spoke with paul about setting up 4.10's in the old ten bolt. he said no problem and to bring it by tomorrow morning. i did, when i got there paul told me to talk to shawn to write a ticket and i did.

the rest is pretty common knowledge.

the thing that got me is when i had to pick up my car at silveys i was told by silvey's and shawn @ c&w that "we swap work all the time, its usually no big deal"

i have no problem with paul, considering my 9" is holding up fine, but if those are the business practices of shawn and silveys then ill do what ive been doing and stay away

[Gt]

wow this thread got big quick

to clear it up. i went and spoke with paul about setting up 4.10's in the old ten bolt. he said no problem and to bring it by tomorrow morning. i did, when i got there paul told me to talk to shawn to write a ticket and i did.

the rest is pretty common knowledge.


hmmm when Paul had told me about it, he said it was all Shawn's deal. Shrug.

[Tally TransAm]

like i said im not too concerned, shit happened like 18 months ago

[Silvey's]

First of all my company has not and will not swap work with any shops, I do use other shops for work, and I pay for the work.

Too clear things up a little more. C&W was owned by Paul & Shawn and if you ask Paul he will tell you that was the worst thing he done.

The only reason I did any business with Shawn is because Paul was one of the owners,and I have been doing business with him for years, And I still use him today.( just look at the side of my truck)

Too clear one more thing up when Shawn called me about Ryans car he ask when and how much I told him $300.00 & it would be done the next day.
Shawn should have called you and told you what was up not me. Hell I didn't even know who you were when you came in.If Shawn & Paul couldn't do that day they should have called you and told you so you would know.

So Ryan I don't see how you can blame and talk bad about me or my company
when it was Shawn and C&W that were in the wrong.

[Kinson Cook, Jr]

........And people wonder why I still take stuff to Atlanta to get anything done. While Brad may not be the fastest, I don't have to worry about my car. And in fact, I will be taking the '96 up there shortly to have some suspension work done and may even do some new tuning and dyno testing.