Nuke video

[J8127]

http://www.whoisthemonkey.com/compilation-of-nukes/

good stuff

[Wild Stang]

Hope I never see that up close.

[christommy]

just think that between the us and russia theres like a couple hundred i think is what i heard last. enough to kill us all like 8 times over!

[88leadsled]

The ones we and Russia have aren't what I'd be worried about.

[TylerGT]

a couple hundred

ummmm try a couple thousand

[J8127]

1054 is the official number of "tests" by the united states. A lot were underground, some were duds, some involved multiple warheads, some were in space.

I bet Russia did even more, though

[StateRoad20]

that shit was pretty sweet

[96s10]

The ones we and Russia have aren't what I'd be worried about.

on the contrary. the ones russia has we definately need to be worried about. they'll sell theirs to the highest bidder.

[DustnF]

I <3 nuclear explosions

[SVT P-Tree]

I <3 nuclear explosions
x2

[88leadsled]

on the contrary. the ones russia has we definately need to be worried about. they'll sell theirs to the highest bidder.

Thats true.

[slmdLS1]

"im not afraid of the man who wants 10 nuclear warheads.... im afraid of the man who only wants one"

[Nactall]

freakin sweet

[93zm6tally]

Sorry but I can't call the video sweet. Anything even remotely glorifying a nuclear explosion is in bad taste in my opinion. The raids that we did on Japan instantly killed thousands of people and no I'm not going to argue about the validity of dropping the bombs. I'm just stating fact, approximately 200,000 died as a direct result of the explosion, many more crippled, including a large number of infants with severe mental retardation attributed to the radiation.

I would recommend that if you are ever in Japan visiting either of the museums in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, they're very interesting - the "Shadow" exhibit is particularly chilling.

As far as not worrying about the U.S and Russian bombs - maybe you should be reminded who the only country is to have ever used a nuclear weapon in time of war.........

[Slush]

Sorry but I can't call the video sweet. Anything even remotely glorifying a nuclear explosion is in bad taste in my opinion. The raids that we did on Japan instantly killed thousands of people and no I'm not going to argue about the validity of dropping the bombs. I'm just stating fact, approximately 200,000 died as a direct result of the explosion, many more crippled, including a large number of infants with severe mental retardation attributed to the radiation.

I would recommend that if you are ever in Japan visiting either of the museums in Hiroshima or Nagasaki, they're very interesting - the "Shadow" exhibit is particularly chilling.

As far as not worrying about the U.S and Russian bombs - maybe you should be reminded who the only country is to have ever used a nuclear weapon in time of war.........

Jesus Mark, have you gone full on hippy? I agree, we are the only ones that have used nuclear weapons in a time of war, but guess what, it ended the war. How many lives did that save total? Just some tidbits...

The number killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was actually small (300,000) compared to the 60 million that the Japanese and their Nazi friends had killed in the entire war that they started. After the first bomb was dropped russia entered the war and killed 100,000 in the first three days of fighting. Imagine if it carried on? Also, had we not dropped the bomb the U.S. was going to invade Japan, a foot war in Japan? Earlier in the year, we and the Allies had firebombed Japan, killling more than the both nukes combined.

[J8127]

Im pretty sure your both a little off, I want to say it was 70k in one city and 60k in another. Regardless, those bombs ended the war and kept us from having to invade Japan, which was predicted to cost 1,000,000 american lives, and I wanna say like 400,000 british.

EDIT- The numbers I posted were those that were instantly killed by the blast, so I would imagine many more died afterwards, it may very well of ended up being 300,000. Not that much considering Russia lost something like 12 million civilians in the war.

[Slush]

Im pretty sure your both a little off, I want to say it was 70k in one city and 60k in another. Regardless, those bombs ended the war and kept us from having to invade Japan, which was predicted to cost 1,000,000 american lives, and I wanna say like 400,000 british.

EDIT- The numbers I posted were those that were instantly killed by the blast, so I would imagine many more died afterwards, it may very well of ended up being 300,000. Not that much considering Russia lost something like 12 million civilians in the war.

The Soviet union lost 17million civies in the war.

I am pretty solid on my facts of 300k for both bombs. I will see if I can dig that up.

EDIT...They place the toll from 150k-300k i guess it's hard to count the people who didn't die from the bomb flash.

[J8127]

Doesn't the total for Russia add up to 28 million? So I guess it would be 11 million soldiers and 17 million civilians? I thought it was 16/12 but for some reason I wanna say it adds up to 28.

I think 300,000 sounds right, the numbers I heard were for those killed instantly.

[SloNLo_350]

In hiroshima alone it was 70,000 from the blast alone and then another 70 from fires and radiation poisoning. So 300,000 for the two is probably about right.

But you have to admit those images are just awe inspiring. ALot of them look like they are from that discovery channel special a while back where it had all those tests that were digitally restored because alot of the film looked too crisp to be originals. The last clip must have been the Russian's 50+ megaton bomb that they tested.

[DustnF]

Using nuclear bombs in war is obviously a horrible thing that should never be done again. However, the amazing visuals and incredible power they produce is awe inspiring. I find it incredible that so little material can produce so much energy.

[93zm6tally]

Jesus Mark, have you gone full on hippy? I agree, we are the only ones that have used nuclear weapons in a time of war, but guess what, it ended the war. How many lives did that save total? Just some tidbits...

The number killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was actually small (300,000) compared to the 60 million that the Japanese and their Nazi friends had killed in the entire war that they started. After the first bomb was dropped russia entered the war and killed 100,000 in the first three days of fighting. Imagine if it carried on? Also, had we not dropped the bomb the U.S. was going to invade Japan, a foot war in Japan? Earlier in the year, we and the Allies had firebombed Japan, killling more than the both nukes combined.

Apparently you didn't read the part of my post where I said I wasn't going to argue about whether or not we should have used the bomb. I'm well aware of the reasoning behind the decision to use the weapon. I understand that it may have saved American lives, but it still wasn't something that we should be proud of. I view the decision to use it as a necessary evil at the time, very unfortunate that it became necessary, certainly not something to glorify.
And I haven't gone so far "Hippy" that I won't come in tomorrow and kick your skinny little ass!:mrgreen:

I also suggest that you do a little more reading about WWII. Economically speaking the war was a great success for the U.S. It was the catalyst that finally ended the great depression and made huge profits for a number of multi-national corporations, mostly based in the U.S. - some of whom made money from both sides of the conflict. Dickhead.

[94Snake]

Apparently you didn't read the part of my post where I said I wasn't going to argue about whether or not we should have used the bomb. I'm well aware of the reasoning behind the decision to use the weapon. I understand that it may have saved American lives, but it still wasn't something that we should be proud of. I view the decision to use it as a necessary evil at the time, very unfortunate that it became necessary, certainly not something to glorify.
And I haven't gone so far "Hippy" that I won't come in tomorrow and kick your skinny little ass!:mrgreen:

I also suggest that you do a little more reading about WWII. Economically speaking the war was a great success for the U.S. It was the catalyst that finally ended the great depression and made huge profits for a number of multi-national corporations, mostly based in the U.S. - some of whom made money from both sides of the conflict. Dickhead.


:bowdown:

[Slush]

Apparently you didn't read the part of my post where I said I wasn't going to argue about whether or not we should have used the bomb. I'm well aware of the reasoning behind the decision to use the weapon. I understand that it may have saved American lives, but it still wasn't something that we should be proud of. I view the decision to use it as a necessary evil at the time, very unfortunate that it became necessary, certainly not something to glorify.
And I haven't gone so far "Hippy" that I won't come in tomorrow and kick your skinny little ass!:mrgreen:

I also suggest that you do a little more reading about WWII. Economically speaking the war was a great success for the U.S. It was the catalyst that finally ended the great depression and made huge profits for a number of multi-national corporations, mostly based in the U.S. - some of whom made money from both sides of the conflict. Dickhead.

I know man, I just had to give you a hard time :)

[coonbottom]

See, i think just the opposite.
Some cultures, just like some people, dont grasp consequences very clearly.

Do any of you know someone who keep getting their butts kicked on a regular basis? Why? Because they have never been hurt enough to get the message across to quit being a dumbass.
They run their mouth, get popped, a month later they are back at it, eventually they get shot and only then it stops. Why? They finally got the message.

Take Russia for example, they knew we ment business with MAD. They never tried anything. However, look at N Korea and Iran. They should have learned from Iraq we mean business yet they still continue to fund terrorist and try to develope nulcear systems capable of developing weapons for not nice people.
When Syria was testing a possible nuclear program (at least according to the CIA), the nightly news said our strategy would have been to bomb the underground facilities where they were being tested. Im going to ASSume that is the same policy for Iran and N. Korea. It would minimize civilian casualties and hopefuly eliminate the threat.
but
Would they learn their lesson?
Im not saying turn the countries into a parking lot, we are fighting their governments, not their people. But a couple of stragtegic nuclear blast would be far more effective in cutting off the head than sending 50K marines into a quagmire.
"walk softly and carry a big stick that glows in the dark" right?

..but that is just my thoughts. Im sure the UN and the hippies would have a shit.

EDIT: I cant remember who said it so this quote is useless, but, in regards with Japan:
"the only way to eliminate hardcore fundamentalism is thru absolute destruction."
Does anyone remember who said that?

[71GS455]

ummmm try a couple thousand


last i heard we had just over 2200 spread thourghout the world... im not sure of the exact number but i know there was a treaty and a removal of arms signed in the 1970's. i believe that limited every other country to right around a hundred.... but my numbers could be off.

[J8127]

I don't know that I would be "proud" of using the bombs on Japan, but personaly I do think we would be better off if we still had that mentality. Dropping those bombs showed America truely valued the life of the American more than that of any other life in the world, and bottom line that is how it needs to be, ESPECIALY in war.

Yes, Africa needs help with AIDS, but if it were me, but if it were me they can all die if people in America need it more (and they do). America needs to take care of itself first, and give the finger to everyone else until AMERICANS are set. The bombs showed that NO amount of Japanese, civilian or not, was worth the life of a single American, and that is how it should be. It's the mentality the majority of the rest of the world has, we need to go back to it too. I am so sick of all this crybaby bullshit about Iraq and how many civilians were killed here, or how many got shot there. Now, I have not been to Iraq, you would have to ask Coy or Bobby, but goddamnit, FUCK IRAQI's if American lives are involved.

/rant that probobly didnt make much sense

[TylerGT]

Strategic Arms Limitation Treaties (SALT) 1 and 2. I have no idea what the numbers were reduced to and am too lazy to look it up. Im sure at one time there were approaching 10000 warheads in the world. Prolly around 3 or 4 thousand now.

[coonbottom]

I don't know that I would be "proud" of using the bombs on Japan, but personaly I do think we would be better off if we still had that mentality. Dropping those bombs showed America truely valued the life of the American more than that of any other life in the world, and bottom line that is how it needs to be, ESPECIALY in war.

Yes, Africa needs help with AIDS, but if it were me, but if it were me they can all die if people in America need it more (and they do). America needs to take care of itself first, and give the finger to everyone else until AMERICANS are set. The bombs showed that NO amount of Japanese, civilian or not, was worth the life of a single American, and that is how it should be. It's the mentality the majority of the rest of the world has, we need to go back to it too. I am so sick of all this crybaby bullshit about Iraq and how many civilians were killed here, or how many got shot there. Now, I have not been to Iraq, you would have to ask Coy or Bobby, but goddamnit, FUCK IRAQI's if American lives are involved.

/rant that probobly didnt make much sense
I think that was the most intellegent post you have ever typed! :mrgreen:

[MustangMan]

I don't know that I would be "proud" of using the bombs on Japan, but personaly I do think we would be better off if we still had that mentality. Dropping those bombs showed America truely valued the life of the American more than that of any other life in the world, and bottom line that is how it needs to be, ESPECIALY in war.

Yes, Africa needs help with AIDS, but if it were me, but if it were me they can all die if people in America need it more (and they do). America needs to take care of itself first, and give the finger to everyone else until AMERICANS are set. The bombs showed that NO amount of Japanese, civilian or not, was worth the life of a single American, and that is how it should be. It's the mentality the majority of the rest of the world has, we need to go back to it too. I am so sick of all this crybaby bullshit about Iraq and how many civilians were killed here, or how many got shot there. Now, I have not been to Iraq, you would have to ask Coy or Bobby, but goddamnit, FUCK IRAQI's if American lives are involved.

/rant that probobly didnt make much sense

Good post X.:bowdown:

[lsevenl]

We should have nuked Iraq.