accused cop killer shot 68 times....

[Benjamin]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15012086/

“That’s all the bullets we had, or we would have shot him more,” Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told the Orlando Sentinel newspaper.

I agree 100%

[slmdLS1]

my buddy who's a LCSO said the deputy of that county was giving a press conference telling the media they were searching for him, when he was interupted by the 50 or 60 shots firing in the background...as he was standing there at the podium, he said "i guess we found him".

if only it was his(the officer that died) wife and 2 or 3 kids that could have pulled the trigger(s).

[MaxwellredruM]

this one is going to be in the lime light for cruel and unusual punishment even though he deserved it.

[Azn Kenny]

He got off to easy.

[ju015dd]

yeah, he got off way too easy. the officer he killed was well known around the community i grew up in. he coached my lil bro one year in little leauge baseball, always had his dog with him too. he will be missed.

[Busted EJ1]

damn, i'd hate to be the one to drag his dead ass off. he couldnt have been too light after that

[Red_02_SS]

i do have to agree that he got off way too easy. cause he only got hit 68 times outta 110. it would've been better if they hit him 110 outta 110. yup...but hey on the brighter side he did cost the state a lil less money by bein doa.

[MaxwellredruM]

there will be a lawsuit i gaurauntee it...i dont think itll be cheap

[Frankie]

That piece of shit deserved it, werent there like 110+ shots fired? To bad he didnt get them all in him,

[thetastelingers]

there will be a lawsuit i gaurauntee it...i dont think itll be cheap

YEP.
that is a no brainer.

[J8127]

We talked about this in class today, I was ready to get up and walk out. Some bitch said "how would you feel if it was your mom who got shot 68 times?"

Motherfucker how would you feel if your mom was shot 6 times doing her job and then when the shooter saw she wasnt dead he put his gun to the back of her head and executed her? Why the fuck does anyone give a motherfucking fuck about this piece of shit?

God I fucking hate people.

/rant

EDIT-

And then some stupid bitch was mad that the officers are being put on paid leeve and are going to be given counceling, she said they should be fired. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!? ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT FUCKING STUPID!?

There were 10 SWAT members involved, all of them had mp5's, 110 bullets out of 10 mp5's is a blink of an eye, and your gonna tell me I should feel bad for this stupid cockbag who EXECUTED a police officer and his dog?

FUCK

[Riceman]

I'd show up at that cockbags funeral just to empty another few clips, out of spite. Fuck him and the stupid bastards that will raise hell over how many times he was shot.

[Snow]

I see that pretty much everyone has viewed one side of the coin, but please remember to at least, for a fraction of second, think about the flipside.

In the United States of America, a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law (yeah, I know this part really pisses a lot of you guys off). If all this guy was doing at the time SWAT found him and killed him was sitting next to a tree with a gun in his lap, that is not justice. In England, people are still considered guilty until they can prove themselves innocent - that's the complete opposite idea that this country was founded upon.

However, if this guy had the gun in his hand pointed in the general direction of any person, they are 100% justified in ending him.

It seems as we progress more and more towards a police state (yeah, like we aren't already there), the police have decided to take on the other arms of justice - judge, jury, and executioner. If for some crazy reason you were mistakenly (or not so mistakenly) accused by the police of killing one of their brethern, you have a death sentence placed on your head - meaning you cannot surrender, you cannot have a chance to stand trial, you will not have a chance to apologize or set the record straight. You are a dead man. The thin blue line have a code of justice all their own.

*edit*


And then some stupid bitch was mad that the officers are being put on paid leeve and are going to be given counceling, she said they should be fired.

That is standard law enforcement policy, anyone that has a problem with that is an idiot.

[NotoriousGreaseMonkey]

I agree that if, and I say if because we don't know the true story and never will, the dude raised a pistol to shoot at SWAT then they had the right to use deadly force. On the other hand 110 shots is excessive IMO. Yes this dude is a piece of shit for taking another persons life, yes he should have got the death penalty after being found guilty but I do believe they were wrong in the amount of force they used. I am not a tree hugging faggot who thinks all criminals should live, but him being in prison while awating his death would have been a hell of alot more punishment than being killed instantly under gunfire.

[J8127]

First of all, they found the guy and told him to put his hands up, he put one hand up, and went to reach for something with the other, they dropped him.

Secondly, there were 10 officers, half of them had M4's, the other half had MP5's, 10 officers, 110 bullets, = 11 rounds each. We have a lot of gun guys on this board, ask them how long it takes to dump 11 rounds out of a gun like that.

Thirdly, they don't designate one guy to shoot, and the rest to look cool, they all saw him reach for a gun, they all shot until the threat was eliminated. I would be willing to bet 110 rounds got fired in under 2 seconds. Is 2 seconds enough time to decide that the threat is eliminated? If you get hit with 68 bullets in 2 seconds, do you just drop to the ground? No, you would probobly stay standing suspended by all the bullets mafia movie style. Cops do not say, ok Im just gonna shoot him one time, they shoot to eliminate the threat, and if you start shooting and he doesn't drop for 2-3 seconds, then the threat isn't eliminated, so you keep shooting.

[NotoriousGreaseMonkey]

They are the most highly trained officers if they are on SWAT they can control their fire, I have fired fully automatic weapons with no special training and didnt dump 11 rounds in 2 seconds. IF the weapons are on full auto they will climb and that many rounds would not hit him. Now this is in my limited expierence I dont shoot fully automatic weapons every day I could be wrong. I have, however, been around guns and shot enough to know that hitting a man 7.555555555 times per officer. (68 divided by 9) is alot of times to put him down That is their story that he didnt put his hands up and reached for a weapon, unless someone has a video we will never know the true story. Again this is my opinion, someone who has been on the other side of police brutality, but what do I know?

[J8127]

I've been looking into it, the team was armed with M4's, which are capable of 800 rounds a minute. Thats 13.3 rounds per second.

The Tallahassee TAC team is trained to use full-auto, they are trained to compensate for the climbing, they dont fuck around with semi or burst, they use full auto.

They are trained to pull the trigger for one second. 1 second = 13 bullets. 13 bullets by 10 cops = 130 rounds. Where did they use to much force again?

[Injected1]

I have to agree with X....I think if the Family sues, the state should conter sue for the officer and the dog.

[slmdLS1]

he refused to obey an order and threatened the lives of the officers searching for him.....im glad he's dead. street justice ftw!

[ju015dd]

I've been looking into it, the team was armed with M4's, which are capable of 800 rounds a minute. Thats 13.3 rounds per second.

The Tallahassee TAC team is trained to use full-auto, they are trained to compensate for the climbing, they dont fuck around with semi or burst, they use full auto.

They are trained to pull the trigger for one second. 1 second = 13 bullets. 13 bullets by 10 cops = 130 rounds. Where did they use to much force again?


fucking libs!! also, it is very possible to shoot that many times that quick. was it m4's or mp'5. either way it is very easy so shoot either or and compensate for the rise of your round. both of these weapons are not that powerful and you can control your aim fairly well with them. also, while in baghdad me and 5 other guys in my squad dumped a 30rd mag each into a hijackers vehicle in just seconds. this was with just semi-autos so you do the math!! these fucking people who always want to flip it and say, what about the badguys!! you have never been in the shoes of someone who has had to make that decision... shit happens, hesistate and you die, or your buddy dies. but you wrong sided people never think about that, it's just always for the enemy........:crazy:

[MaxwellredruM]

i agree that he should have been ended, and true it is good that he was ended teh way he was, and by the people he was and not a stupid chair or needle by some chemical justice guy. But to be honest being that they were who they were and were looking for a cop killer, that leaves alot of room for bias, even if he had given up and laid down who knows how well each of them knew the officer and the dog. That is the reason when you are a jury member your not supposed to know the person on trial in any way so as to not be tilted to one side nor the other. I think that he should have been shot and ended the way he was only if he was say..shot in the neck and had to take a however man minute ride to the hospital or some other fatal thing. I dunno im probably going to be called an idiot, and i do completley understand what x said about parents being shot and such but such a small amount of suffering for a life time of suffering to that officers family just seems to be a pretty easy way to get off.

[MaxwellredruM]

fucking libs!! also, it is very possible to shoot that many times that quick. was it m4's or mp'5. either way it is very easy so shoot either or and compensate for the rise of your round. both of these weapons are not that powerful and you can control your aim fairly well with them. also, while in baghdad me and 5 other guys in my squad dumped a 30rd mag each into a hijackers vehicle in just seconds. this was with just semi-autos so you do the math!! these fucking people who always want to flip it and say, what about the badguys!! you have never been in the shoes of someone who has had to make that decision... shit happens, hesistate and you die, or your buddy dies. but you wrong sided people never think about that, it's just always for the enemy........:crazy:

that made me realize alot , thanks, i didnt even think about any of the things that you said untill you said them.

[96s10]

i'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

[coonbottom]

I wish he had given up and was taken into custody.
If you kill a LEO you are sentenced to death. Normally, i am against the death penaly. Not because i think it is wrong but for the cost it takes to execute someone. However, i think it would be perfect in this case.
That way, for the 2+ years it took to get him thru the appeal process and executed he could have been beaten by the prison guards and ass raped every night, yet, the family of the victim could still see him die.
Not shot and killed pretty much instantly.

[pat94cobra]

i think if the family sues.....i think an addition 110 rounds should be injected into each dumbass family member he has.

[pat94cobra]

I see that pretty much everyone has viewed one side of the coin, but please remember to at least, for a fraction of second, think about the flipside.

In the United States of America, a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law (yeah, I know this part really pisses a lot of you guys off). If all this guy was doing at the time SWAT found him and killed him was sitting next to a tree with a gun in his lap, that is not justice. In England, people are still considered guilty until they can prove themselves innocent - that's the complete opposite idea that this country was founded upon.

However, if this guy had the gun in his hand pointed in the general direction of any person, they are 100% justified in ending him.

It seems as we progress more and more towards a police state (yeah, like we aren't already there), the police have decided to take on the other arms of justice - judge, jury, and executioner. If for some crazy reason you were mistakenly (or not so mistakenly) accused by the police of killing one of their brethern, you have a death sentence placed on your head - meaning you cannot surrender, you cannot have a chance to stand trial, you will not have a chance to apologize or set the record straight. You are a dead man. The thin blue line have a code of justice all their own.

*edit*



That is standard law enforcement policy, anyone that has a problem with that is an idiot.

by the way was that u who got ur car aligned yesterday?

[Turbonium]

I feel no remorse for that shitbag. When I was in Iraq (same time as Coy) Some bastard shot a buddy of mine in the face with a .38 (he lived and got off with just a scratch because the bullet bounced off his tooth, lucky bastard) everyone in the squad dumped a 30 round mag in that fucker. Took two seconds or less with Semi-Auto M16's. In the heat of the moment when someone kills your friends and co-workers in the line of duty you respond to end the threat and with some malice and anger. It's a reaction anyone would have, trust me.

[ju015dd]

I feel no remorse for that shitbag. When I was in Iraq (same time as Coy) Some bastard shot a buddy of mine in the face with a .38 (he lived and got off with just a scratch because the bullet bounced off his tooth, lucky bastard) everyone in the squad dumped a 30 round mag in that fucker. Took two seconds or less with Semi-Auto M16's. In the heat of the moment when someone kills your friends and co-workers in the line of duty you respond to end the threat and with some malice and anger. It's a reaction anyone would have, trust me.

amen

[NotoriousGreaseMonkey]

I wish he had given up and was taken into custody.
If you kill a LEO you are sentenced to death. Normally, i am against the death penaly. Not because i think it is wrong but for the cost it takes to execute someone. However, i think it would be perfect in this case.
That way, for the 2+ years it took to get him thru the appeal process and executed he could have been beaten by the prison guards and ass raped every night, yet, the family of the victim could still see him die.
Not shot and killed pretty much instantly.

For once I agree with you.

[Frankie]

I'd show up at that cockbags funeral just to empty another few clips, out of spite. Fuck him and the stupid bastards that will raise hell over how many times he was shot.

Ill come with you.

Accually, he doesnt even deserve a funeral.

[scooby]

Hey was dead the minute he shot the leo we just saved tax money by getting his death pently sped up

[MaxwellredruM]

...you have to pay your taxes first...:secret:

[300Plus.net]

http://www.theledger.com/static/flash_video/20061004_matt_williams/index.html

Rest In Peace...

[scooby]

Very good video RIP

[SloNLo_350]

but you wrong sided people never think about that, it's just always for the enemy........:crazy:
They call us "right wing" for a reason... 'cause we're RIGHT!

Liberals just always need something to complain about and sue someone over. I don't think any rational judge would have a problem laughing this guys family right out of court.

[IUP99snake]

I see that pretty much everyone has viewed one side of the coin, but please remember to at least, for a fraction of second, think about the flipside.

In the United States of America, a person is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law (yeah, I know this part really pisses a lot of you guys off). If all this guy was doing at the time SWAT found him and killed him was sitting next to a tree with a gun in his lap, that is not justice. In England, people are still considered guilty until they can prove themselves innocent - that's the complete opposite idea that this country was founded upon.

However, if this guy had the gun in his hand pointed in the general direction of any person, they are 100% justified in ending him.

It seems as we progress more and more towards a police state (yeah, like we aren't already there), the police have decided to take on the other arms of justice - judge, jury, and executioner. If for some crazy reason you were mistakenly (or not so mistakenly) accused by the police of killing one of their brethern, you have a death sentence placed on your head - meaning you cannot surrender, you cannot have a chance to stand trial, you will not have a chance to apologize or set the record straight. You are a dead man. The thin blue line have a code of justice all their own.

*edit*



That is standard law enforcement policy, anyone that has a problem with that is an idiot.

remember... the key word is "accused". Im not trying to say that he's innocent, and im sure there are some aggrivating factors involved, but what if everyone that was accused of killing a cop (without going to trial) got shot 68 times.

The guy probably deserved it, but we have to remember we're better than that. Only corrupt governments, and third world countries still do that shit, the rest of us understood that an eye for an eye was cruel and unusual.

[NotoriousGreaseMonkey]

I agree. You said it better than I did. That is the point I was trying to make. Thank you.

[J8127]

An eye for an eye is not cruel and unusual, you're just a pussy.

[slmdLS1]

cruel and unusual is what he deserved. and its exactly what he got.

[DSG03SVT]

cruel and unusual is what he deserved. and its exactly what he got.

+1

[fatkid]

fucking libs!! also, it is very possible to shoot that many times that quick. was it m4's or mp'5. either way it is very easy so shoot either or and compensate for the rise of your round. both of these weapons are not that powerful and you can control your aim fairly well with them. also, while in baghdad me and 5 other guys in my squad dumped a 30rd mag each into a hijackers vehicle in just seconds. this was with just semi-autos so you do the math!! these fucking people who always want to flip it and say, what about the badguys!! you have never been in the shoes of someone who has had to make that decision... shit happens, hesistate and you die, or your buddy dies. but you wrong sided people never think about that, it's just always for the enemy........:crazy:


I feel no remorse for that shitbag. When I was in Iraq (same time as Coy) Some bastard shot a buddy of mine in the face with a .38 (he lived and got off with just a scratch because the bullet bounced off his tooth, lucky bastard) everyone in the squad dumped a 30 round mag in that fucker. Took two seconds or less with Semi-Auto M16's. In the heat of the moment when someone kills your friends and co-workers in the line of duty you respond to end the threat and with some malice and anger. It's a reaction anyone would have, trust me.


+1. Also for the both of you thanks for serving us. Hearing this stuff from people actually being in this situation makes everything sound a lot better.

[pat94cobra]

i think cruel and unusual is just fine. what do u call the death of the cop? just? an accident? he gave that cop a cruel and unusual death. whats the difference

[IUP99snake]

im not saying that the murder of a police officer, a public servant who bravely risks their lives every day to protect us, isnt cruel and unusual.

You know what. If I was one of those police officers who lost one of their brothers, I would have probably done the same thing, knowing that my emotions were distraught, and that this might not be the right thing to do. I still wouldnt care. I woulndt take into account what he has to say, his state of mind, or even if he was guilty or not, because such a situation would drive me crazy.

That's just me, in this unique situation.

However, im trying to look at this from society's perspective, and also the crude way you are arguing your points. I don't disagree with you, but what you are implying is absolutely rediculous. The way the law works is that we use the relevance of the outcomes of previous cases to determine how we should deal with future situations. Your arguments (and this situation) completely ignore that.

An eye for an eye system is completely invalid. What happens if you get caught smoking pot? Would they force you to smoke more? or involuntary manslaughter? Would they force you to get accidentally killed by someone that wasnt their fault? I know that was a little beyond the scope of this crime and argument, but comes to show how rediculous and archaic that really is.

Like I mentioned before, There were aggrivating factors. The police said the officer was "executed", and when they found the SUSPECT, he had a gun. Have you taken into account how distraught the police officers were, and how HUGE of a conflict of interest that creates? Let's see:

In addition to the police officer's job of "law enforcement", they also served as: 1. congress (that makes the laws) 2. Prosecutor, 3. Judge 4. Jury, 5. Lawyer, 6. Politician, and 7. executioner. I dont want to live in a country where one agency, or person has such power.

Feel free to kindly get the fuck out of this country, and visit a place like sub-saharan africa. Go see a corrupt government that lacks this balance of power, and you'll be glad to come back. Then if you still think the same way, go vote for someone who supports such barbaric ideals. It'll be an embarassment.

[BreBar21]

What happens if you get caught smoking pot? Would they force you to smoke more?

:-o

[fatkid]

:-o
LOL some people would just enjoy that too much...:lol: