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JD
09-29-2003, 10:33 AM
First of all, big thanks to Bryan ("Mr. Carb Cleaner"), Bo ("The Ultimate Ratchet Man"), and Greg (king of "I don't stop 'til the fuckin' job's done"). They all busted their asses (and knuckles) to get this thing running great, and I appreciate you guys sacrificing your Sunday, your relationships with your significant others, and in all cases your skin and blood to get done what turned out to be an awesome job8).

So we tear into the motor at like 1:30 yesterday, and we get the intake off, the plates and we're looking at this caramel coated intake and ports. Ughh- nasty shit. Bryan, Bo, Greg, and I all start going to town with the carb cleaner and scrub brushes and get all the shit clean enough to eat off of. Intake ports, intake cover, and IMRC plates are ready to reassemble, so we get it all buttoned back up in like 40 minutes, most of which is spent trying to get the plates lined up right and route the IMRC actuator cables correctly. Bryan and Bo refill the coolant and I go to fire it up, and our eyes bug out of our heads listening to what can only be described as BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM. Fuck. Car says :flip2: .

We're all Holy Shitting it trying to figure out if we left a socket inside the motor. Check and find all tools accounted for. Nothing else to do but- you guessed it- tear it all down AGAIN!!!

:flipoff2: Fuckin' IMRCs. See Avatar for our true feelings on the subject.

So we get it torn down again and find that one of the injector caps (little plastic thingy) fell off into the number 5 intake port and was getting smashed to bits. After Bryan and I drove around all over the west side of town trying to find another injector to steal a cap from while Bo and Greg reassembled everything except the fuel rails, we could find none that would work.

SO, to make a long story even longer, we decided to just put it all back together and hope that the cap would be disintigrated/vaporized by the motor/exhaust. Finally finished it, fired it up, and it sounded normal. THANK GOD I'm not going to need a new short block! Warmed it up, topped off the coolant and left for a test drive.

The results:

WHOOMAH!!!!! :twisted:This boy runs like it never has before. Power increase was quite significant, no more stutter in RPM band and even deceleration under load is smooth as glass (no popping, stuttering, sputtering as before).

I would have been at this for two days with the issues we had if I'd tried to do it on my own. This is a huge improvement in driveability as the car is SO much smoother.

Thanks again guys for busting your asses on a day off to make this happen.8)

Greg Kulbick
09-29-2003, 10:50 AM
No more overheating?

JD
09-29-2003, 10:54 AM
Nope. About five minutes after I left your house, I stopped for gas and checked the coolant level. The top tank was empty, so I filled it with water and temp came down to "O" in NORMAL within a minute.

One bad thing came from all this: I think I may have created another problem for myself by getting the power back in the car, as now when I try to powershift, the clutch is slipping:roll: .

Slow ET
09-29-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by JD
... temp came down to "O" in NORMAL within a minute.



gotta love Fords temperature guage :lol:

jlaw
09-29-2003, 11:24 AM
What did you end up doing about the injector?

JD
09-29-2003, 11:26 AM
We just stuck it in there and ran it. Doesn't leak, although I figure I'm going to have to do something about it this week before some unforseen disaster occurs. Greg said that Tony has a couple of old injectors that I can steal the caps from, so I'll probably end up doing just that.

Greg Kulbick
09-29-2003, 11:27 AM
Everything was dry and the tip wasn't harmed. I don't see it creating a problem unless that other one breaks more and falls in through the intake valve.

jess
09-29-2003, 11:27 AM
You got Bryan in big trouble mister...

j/k

JD
09-29-2003, 11:28 AM
Thanks for being so understanding Jess. You're the best.

jess
09-29-2003, 11:34 AM
Thanks! I felt bad for you, I was worried ya'll broke your car.

brandboZ28
09-29-2003, 11:53 AM
Glad you got everything figured out and running better.

Bring on the clutch install!!!:twisted:

Slush
09-29-2003, 12:06 PM
that pintle cap isn't important as long as the pintle isn't damaged

JD
09-29-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by qball
that pintle cap isn't important as long as the pintle isn't damaged

So THAT'S what that thing is called! Thanks- I was wondering. Yeah, the pintles were fine on the ones that broke, and the car is running better than ever. I just drove around my whole lunch hour enjoying it.

Bo- Yeah, I can see that in my future.:sad: Too bad since I just had it replaced in April (Dad had somebody put a Luk clutch in it as a surprise birthday present) for WAY over what it would have cost for me to put in a SPEC Stage 3. Oh well.:roll:

93zm6tally
09-29-2003, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by brandboZ28
Glad you got everything figured out and running better.

Bring on the clutch install!!!:twisted:

Exactly, bring on the clutch install!! (And rear main seal)!!

brandboZ28
09-29-2003, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by 93zm6tally
Exactly, bring on the clutch install!! (And rear main seal)!! We do that at the same time! Tell me when and Im there!:twisted:

JD
09-29-2003, 03:23 PM
:roll:

hobbstc
09-29-2003, 03:25 PM
Hey, did you put the breathers on it? I guess I'm the last one who needs to clean the IMRCs...I should do that soon. Any takers on helping? :)

brandboZ28
09-29-2003, 03:39 PM
Ill help

JD
09-29-2003, 03:54 PM
Good seeing you last night getting fuel. As for the K&N breathers, I've ordered them and they'll be here this week.

I'm in Arizona this weekend, but if you want to wait until the following weekendto clean yours, I'm down. May I recommend that you plan on doing this on a Saturday? Believe me, if we'd have had another day for this, it would have made for a less stressful time!

Greg Kulbick
09-29-2003, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by hobbstc
...I should do that soon. Any takers on helping? :)

You think you're funny meow?










j/k, I'll dive into another one.

hobbstc
09-29-2003, 07:43 PM
Listen, I'll have you meow that I pay with food for those who help meow. Cool?

hobbstc
09-29-2003, 07:44 PM
BTW< 2 weeks is the Miami game weekend. I have peeps coming in town. Maybe the next one? We have an away game.

brandboZ28
09-29-2003, 07:49 PM
I think we could do it one night this week if your cool with that. I really think we could get this done in a matter of a couple of hours if not quicker since everything is so fresh in our heads. That way you'll feel the power that much sooner:D Thats just what I think. Its totally up to you. Just let me know when you want to clean them and Im there.

Oh and food is never a bad payment! :lol:

Bryan02TA
09-29-2003, 08:32 PM
Hey no problem Jeff, glad to see your car is running good. I think it is safe to say that we have mastered the IMRC cleaning. I've done it once with my car.......and 3 times with yours :D.

I bet that thing woke up though, those IMRC's were DIRTY!!!!!

JD
09-30-2003, 07:18 AM
BIG difference in the way the car behaves at all RPMs. VERY COOL!!!:headbang: :headbang: Let me know when you are going to do yours, Tom, and we'll get'r done.

Gt
09-30-2003, 07:33 AM
You can buy fuel injector caps and o-rings at Carquest/Napa for like $20. Its a kit to replace all the o-rings and caps.

JD
09-30-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Gt
You can buy fuel injector caps and o-rings at Carquest/Napa for like $20. Its a kit to replace all the o-rings and caps.

8) You just made my week. Thanks Tony.

Tally TransAm
09-30-2003, 11:31 AM
fuckin flappers . . .

Greg Kulbick
09-30-2003, 11:54 AM
That's the technical term.

brandboZ28
09-30-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Tally TransAm
fuckin flappers . . . :lol:

JD
09-30-2003, 01:12 PM
Flap Flap Flap...

Bryan02TA
09-30-2003, 07:09 PM
it's "flapper thingies"

It's fucking V-Tech in a 4V. They will be deleted next chance i get

T
09-30-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by 97_Stang
it's "flapper thingies"

It's fucking V-Tech in a 4V. They will be deleted next chance i get

you will lose low end then

Bryan02TA
09-30-2003, 07:18 PM
It will be a long time until i clean them again, but once i do, i will never do it again. SVT assholes! If i do lose bottom end, i'm sure it would be worth it not having to clean the bastards again!

JD
09-30-2003, 10:10 PM
Bryan,

Just get a set of breathers and delete the EGR altogether. That's what I'm doing. One goes right into the driver's side vent where the PCV valve is now (plug other end of PCV valve hose where it enters intake) and the other goes into the end of the hose attached to the passenger side valve cover (sits sideways).

Another option is to put an air compressor oil separator in line with the EGR system intact. That'll do it too if you don't want to dump the EGR.

Deleting the plates is going to leave you with no power down low since you will see a significant drop your intake charge velocity at low RPMs.

Jeff

97MattGT
10-01-2003, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by 97_Stang
It will be a long time until i clean them again, but once i do, i will never do it again. SVT assholes! If i do lose bottom end, i'm sure it would be worth it not having to clean the bastards again!


not really. i've seen torque losses of about 15-20 in the lower end, and the 4v doesn't do all that great for torque to begin with.

if you really wanna do it right, just get tumble port heads. ;)

Bryan02TA
10-01-2003, 06:01 PM
sounds good Jeff, lemme know how that works

JD
10-02-2003, 07:32 AM
Will do.

hobbstc
10-02-2003, 09:20 AM
Well, I'm going to be busy the next weektrying to get my GRE done, so hopefully after the Miami game I'll have time. Plus I'll let Jeff work out the breather stuff so I can copy his setup without the hassles. :)