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Turbonium
11-29-2007, 09:46 AM
The sites been kinda dead lately thought I would liven it up a little. The Florida Primary is coming up really fast, and I know most members here are conservative so let's here what you think about the candidates on both sides. Just for fun I'm including a poll to see who people will most likely vote for in January. I thought the debate last night was OK, not great, but it showed some people in a clearer light than had happened before.

coonbottom
11-29-2007, 10:16 AM
Remember the short internet quiz going around a while back? I took it and it said my ideals line up with Huckabee the most.
I didn't put much faith in it but the more I learn about him, the more I like him.

mac_24_seven
11-29-2007, 10:24 AM
Just to see how many would vote for it.. Add " Will not vote" Unless you don't care who won't vote, which in that case whatever :P

sstony
11-29-2007, 10:34 AM
i have to find out more on the candidates before i vote. i only watched a little bit of the debate last night and i've definitely found a few that will not get my vote.

good idea bobby.

Turbonium
11-29-2007, 10:39 AM
It's a tough choice this year. This is probably one of the most important elections this country will have in our generation. I'm stuck between Giuliani and Huckabee. Giuliani's record from being Mayor is amazing, but Huckabee answers the questions straight and he supports the FAIR TAX. Please read about the Fair Tax, it will save this country financially. www.fairtax.org (http://www.fairtax.org).

pendrgn
11-29-2007, 11:02 AM
fair tax is, in my opinion, not that great of an idea, and will never be passed, but removing the 16th amendment which is part of their movement is a great idea since the idea behind that amendment has changed a lot over the years due to the Supreme Court's interpretation of it. I don't think it is applicable anymore to our country. Since you linked their site though, I will have to read over it. I am for Rudy though, I am from new england and think he is someone that can make strong decisions.

FloridaZ
11-29-2007, 12:04 PM
I would like to vote for McCain because he's a former POW and downright bad motherfucker, but I dont agree with all of his politics. Mitt Romney get's my vote but I think Rudy will win the primary and be the republican candidate.

ArtyG
11-29-2007, 12:07 PM
I gotta finish the book first and then watch the Debate that you DVR'd before I can make up my mind, Bobby.

Greg Kulbick
11-29-2007, 01:19 PM
I wanted to make a youtube video to ask Fred Thompson if he was elected, what the chances of him making Christopher Meloni Secretary of Defense were. I mean just hold a press conference and address whatever country is pissing us off and say, "Did you see OZ? This guy will fuck you up. Litterally. Don't make me turn him lose on you assholes."

Turbonium
11-29-2007, 01:20 PM
I gotta finish the book first and then watch the Debate that you DVR'd before I can make up my mind, Bobby.

Watch it at work: http://www.youtube.com/republicandebate

SS_Hokie
11-29-2007, 01:42 PM
A few things hold me back from Rudy........1, the whole affair thing, hell he had another woman living in his home. Now I know the whole moral thing is questioned when it comes to leadership abilities, but the decisions our elected law makers are making, I want some morality too. I'm torn between Fred Thompson (I'm from TN) and Mike Huckabee

SS_Hokie
11-29-2007, 01:43 PM
Oh yeah.......Ron Paulevolution.........:lol:

Greg Kulbick
11-29-2007, 02:04 PM
CNN stacking the deck????!!!? Say it ain't so...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313681,00.html

LD50
11-29-2007, 03:02 PM
Oh yeah.......Ron Paulevolution.........:lol:

+∞

Political Positions of Ron Paul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul)

Paul calls for a foreign policy of nonintervention.[42] This policy avoids entangling alliances with other nations, in the tradition of Washington, Jefferson, and Madison,[43] in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to defense.

Paul's foreign policy of nonintervention[11] made him the only 2008 Republican presidential candidate to have voted against the Iraq War Resolution in 2002.

Paul regularly votes against almost all proposals for new government spending, initiatives, or taxes.

Paul was the first member of Congress, in the 1970s, to propose term limits legislation in the House,[38] where he also declined to attend junkets or register for a Congressional pension while serving four terms.[39] He proposed legislation to decrease Congressional pay by the rate of inflation.

Paul would abolish the individual income tax by scaling back the federal budget to its 2000 spending levels.

slowLX
11-29-2007, 03:44 PM
He proposed legislation to decrease Congressional pay by the rate of inflation.Now that is good fucking idea!

LD50
11-29-2007, 03:52 PM
Now that is good fucking idea!

It doesn't stop there, he has never voted for a congressional pay increase either. Check that article.

T
11-29-2007, 04:20 PM
Ive never really been excited about a candidate until I researched Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8

J8127
11-29-2007, 05:46 PM
Ron Paul.

Giuliani honestly scares me.

Bryan02TA
11-30-2007, 12:10 AM
I hope the 3 that voted for Hillary are joking, geez.

slowLX
11-30-2007, 12:54 AM
I hope the 3 that voted for Hillary are joking, geez.Seriously, I can respect every candidate except Billary.

SS_Hokie
11-30-2007, 09:05 AM
Ron Paul is quite possibly the most conservative candidate I have ever researched, which this country may need in many regards financially speaking. I don't think his views on foreign policy are correct in this day and age. Do I think we need to be the World Police, no, but he supports Monroe foreign policy, which was great for that time, but today, I think needs more aggressiveness. He's managed to generate more money via internet campaigning. I think the polls may be wrong, the young crowd really supports Ron Paul.

FloridaZ
11-30-2007, 09:09 AM
Obama is a terrorist sympathizer, fuck him.

Turbonium
11-30-2007, 09:14 AM
It is amazing how much Ron Paul has raised, he also says he doesn't need as much money as the big candidates. Even if he won the primaries he wouldn't get the nomination. Let's just hope he doesn't try and run as an independent because that will guarantee a Democrat in the Oval Office in 08.

slowLX
11-30-2007, 09:21 AM
It is amazing how much Ron Paul has raised, he also says he doesn't need as much money as the big candidates. Even if he won the primaries he wouldn't get the nomination. Let's just hope he doesn't try and run as an independent because that will guarantee a Democrat in the Oval Office in 08.For what it's worth he has promised NOT to run as an independent.

SS_Hokie
11-30-2007, 09:33 AM
It is amazing how much Ron Paul has raised, he also says he doesn't need as much money as the big candidates. Even if he won the primaries he wouldn't get the nomination. Let's just hope he doesn't try and run as an independent because that will guarantee a Democrat in the Oval Office in 08.

I can't disagree with you more. Are you saying the fate of the GOP lies in the hands of an extreme right candidate? There are some decent Republican candidates running. I don't think the GOP is going to lay down in this election at all.

FloridaZ
11-30-2007, 11:13 AM
I can't disagree with you more. Are you saying the fate of the GOP lies in the hands of an extreme right candidate? There are some decent Republican candidates running. I don't think the GOP is going to lay down in this election at all.

I think it will split the Republican vote, like crazy ass Ross Perot did a few years back.

SS_Hokie
11-30-2007, 11:40 AM
I think it will split the Republican vote, like crazy ass Ross Perot did a few years back.

I see your point of view now. That's a good point. But as Travis pointed out, Ron Paul has said he will not run independent, and I think I remember him saying the same thing on an interview I watched a couple weeks ago.

coonbottom
11-30-2007, 12:47 PM
Ron Paul is quite possibly the most conservative candidate I have ever researched, which this country may need in many regards financially speaking.
I can't speak against his financial plans cause, well, I don't know what they are but no..this country doesn't need another conservative economic/budgetary agenda. It has not gone well in the past several years under the Bush administration.
NOTE: I am not talking about the war spending but his over all strategies.
What we need is a libertarian (at least in that field) to set government spending and social programs straight…or…end them all together. Another reason I like Huckabee. Some of his views, especially when it comes to the economy, lean that way.

J8127
11-30-2007, 01:25 PM
I can't speak against his financial plans cause, well, I don't know what they are but no..this country doesn't need another conservative economic/budgetary agenda. It has not gone well in the past several years under the Bush administration.
NOTE: I am not talking about the war spending but his over all strategies.
What we need is a libertarian (at least in that field) to set government spending and social programs straight…or…end them all together. Another reason I like Huckabee. Some of his views, especially when it comes to the economy, lean that way.

You might want to read up on Ron Paul then, he IS a libertarian. He wants the IRS gone, income taxes gone, fix welfare, fuck NAFTA and all that other bullshit, and build a big fucking wall.

Also, Bush's economical plan was about as far away from a real conservative agenda as Travis is to getting laid.

Turbonium
11-30-2007, 02:31 PM
I think it will split the Republican vote, like crazy ass Ross Perot did a few years back.

That is what I was talking about not about Ron actually getting the nomination. Any third party candidate, besides Ralph Nader will clinch a Democrat win in 08.

LD50
11-30-2007, 05:48 PM
That is what I was talking about not about Ron actually getting the nomination. Any third party candidate, besides Ralph Nader will clinch a Democrat win in 08.

I agree on that point but the only reason Ron Paul won't get the nomination is if you don't vote for him.

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