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SS2win
12-04-2007, 10:37 PM
From an autoblog.com article on the 2008 Cobalt (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/officially-official-2008-chevy-cobalt-ss-bows-at-sema/)...


The standard transmission is the GM Powertrain Sweden F35 short-throw 5-speed manual with a "no-lift shift" feature. This, combined with the punchy turbo four, helps propel the Cobalt SS Turbocharged from 0 to 60 in a scant 5.7 seconds. In fact, GM set a Nürburgring class record for FWD sport compacts with the turbo Cobalt, lapping the Green Hell in 8:22.85. Better braking accompanies the added power with 4-piston fixed-caliper Brembos in front and vented discs with single-piston calipers in the rear. A driver-selectable competition mode with launch control can be enabled from the cockpit. Beyond that, the traction control system can be completely disabled.

THANK GOD they ditched the supercharger. I just may have to get the wife one of these so I can take it to the grocery store. She'll have to learn to drive a stick though. :twisted:

For comparison sakes, here is the kind of company this car hangs out with at Nürburgring



8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 PS (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- 2008 Honda NSX, 500 PS/??? kg, www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/225863/
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion") http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ua_wcOnPkxk
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche Boxster S, 280 PS/1426 kg (sport auto 04/06)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05),
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (sport auto 05/04)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Audi RS4, 375 PS/1675 kg (sport auto 10/00)
8:25* -- 146.851 km/h –- 2007 BMW M5 Touring, 507 PS (*mfr.)
8:25 --- 146.851 km/h -- Corvette Callaway C12, 400 PS/1564 kg (sport auto 04/99)


:beer::beer::beer:

v8minus2
12-04-2007, 11:46 PM
i kind of like the new hhr ss. panel version that is.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p236/non2os13/daytona%2007/DSC00120.jpg?t=1196830263

luv_my_z28
12-05-2007, 06:38 AM
Wow, a Cobalt looks really out of place on that list. Im anxious for them to come out so i can go test drive one :)

mac_24_seven
12-05-2007, 08:20 AM
<chuckles> I wasn't so wrong after all: Chevy did realize the Cobalt sucked.

This one, however seems much better ;) I like the no-lift shifting.

Dustin
12-05-2007, 09:07 AM
<chuckles> I wasn't so wrong after all: Chevy did realize the Cobalt sucked.

This one, however seems much better ;) I like the no-lift shifting.

no lift shifting just means whoever learns how to "race" in a cobalt will pretty much blow everything else up. I just know someone is going to end up with a cobalt ss as their first car, and then drive someone elses like they do the cobalt.. and bam..


it does seem pretty neat. there will be a ton more aftermarket now, and it should be a good bit quicker than the ss/sc model.

DustnF
12-05-2007, 09:29 AM
i kind of like the new hhr ss. panel version that is.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p236/non2os13/daytona%2007/DSC00120.jpg?t=1196830263

Damn, that thing looks pretty sweet.

NotoriousGreaseMonkey
12-05-2007, 12:08 PM
Damn I didnt see a honda Civic in that list...What was Honda thinking??????:taunt:

mac_24_seven
12-05-2007, 03:26 PM
Damn I didnt see a honda Civic in that list...What was Honda thinking??????:taunt:

It's there, you just didn't down go far enough! :taunt:

8:47 --- 140.721 km/h -- Honda Civic Type-R, 200 PS/1246 kg (sport auto 11/01) 185 HP 1.6 ltr, NA

Slow ET
12-05-2007, 11:19 PM
that new NSX has got to be the ugliest car evar

KillerSS
12-06-2007, 02:16 AM
260bhp is quite a bit better than the s/c Cobalts, and once they come out I'm sure they'll surprise a few people at the stoplight.

And I agree about the NSX being ugly...that thing will have blindspots worse than a Hummer.

Jericho574
12-06-2007, 07:40 AM
that new NSX has got to be the ugliest car evar

+1

SS2win
12-06-2007, 09:31 AM
I just hope they have good pistons and rods, and can be modded easily.

Dustin
12-06-2007, 09:46 AM
I just hope they have good pistons and rods, and can be modded easily.

yeah, i'm sure chevy will offer more performance parts, but you'll see some crazy builds soon after it's released. I'm sure I can think of a few shops that would love to build some 450whp cobalts within the first two months..

I am impressed at just how much tire you can get under them though. 245s on a FWD car is still impressive.

PipeLayaz
12-06-2007, 05:50 PM
I just hope they have good pistons and rods, and can be modded easily.

Highlights of the Cobalt SS's Ecotec 2.0L DI turbo engine include:

* Steel crankshaft
* Forged connecting rods
* Oil-spray piston cooling
* 9.2:1 compression ratio
* Aluminum cylinder head with stainless steel intake valves and sodium-filled exhaust valves
* High-pressure engine-driven fuel pump
* Mobil 1 synthetic oil

Components including the steel crankshaft and forged connecting rods are high-strength items that provide strength and enhance durability. Oil-spray piston cooling helps reduce cylinder temperatures and promotes longevity by delivering pressurized oil that continuously lubricates the pistons, which reduces friction. To enhance combustion, the piston tops feature a dish shape that deflects incoming fuel toward the spark plugs.

To accommodate the direct-injection system, the Ecotec 2.0L DI turbo has a unique cylinder head and intake manifold. The cylinder head incorporates mounting locations for the fuel injectors – items that are typically mounted in the intake manifold on port-injection engines. Specialized and extremely precise multi-hole fuel injectors are used to meter fuel and deliver it in a finely atomized manner. They are supported by an engine-mounted high-pressure fuel pump.

Apart from the mounting positions of the fuel injectors, the cylinder head has conventional port and combustion chamber designs. Large stainless steel intake valves and sodium-filled exhaust valves are durable components designed to stand up to the high-performance capability of the engine.

The unique cylinder head, fuel system, pistons and intake manifold are the major components that differentiate the 2.0L DI turbo from other members of the Ecotec engine family. Mobil 1 synthetic engine oil is installed at the factory. Synthetic oil was selected for its friction-reducing capabilities and high-temperature performance.

v8minus2
12-06-2007, 06:21 PM
might have to go check out the build quality of the rest of the car.

Dustin
12-06-2007, 06:35 PM
might have to go check out the build quality of the rest of the car.

last cobalt i test drove scared me, the dash was coming loose with 3 miles on it..

v8minus2
12-06-2007, 08:07 PM
you're forgeting about the train ride and truck rides too though. lol

Spinner
12-07-2007, 04:12 PM
Same motor as the sky. All forged. It's stout.