View Full Version : How hard is to swap an intake manifold and a TB on LS2?
BlackPearl
05-31-2008, 01:34 PM
I'm going to drop some cash on a ported LS2 manifold and ported TB (YES FINALLY SOME GO FAST MODS :joystick:). There is a special on ls1gto.com for $300 shipped. Problem is I have never done this before and was wondering how long does it usually take because I need to send my stockers back within a certain time to get the core fee refunded. If anyone has had experience with it and would like to help I'll supply the beer :) Thanks!
96s10
05-31-2008, 02:24 PM
never done in on an ls2, but on an ls1 it could easily be done in an hour, maybe 2 if you're not familar with it.
Riceman
05-31-2008, 02:27 PM
Same as LS1, very easy. Only "special" tool you might need is the fuel line disconnect. It can be done without, but the rails and injectors will just be in the way.
Make sure not to over torque on install, and do the bolts in some kind of cross pattern to make the seat even :tu:
BlackPearl
05-31-2008, 03:28 PM
I would feel a lot better if I had someone who knew what they were doing help me out. I don't want to fuck anything up. Beer is on me :) Let me know...
PipeLayaz
05-31-2008, 03:52 PM
It can't be that hard if you have the tools man. Look up on some stickies for a write of of how to do it or ask the sponsor that is providing the manifold... I trust you can do the TB no sweat.
BlackPearl
05-31-2008, 04:47 PM
The TB I'm familiar with. But the intake I've never done it. Being that this is my first car I've worked on I'm just a little cautious that's all. Never hurts to have a buddy who knows what to do help you out. Kills the time and you can watch out for the little shit that can go wrong.
96s10
05-31-2008, 05:10 PM
release any fuel pressure, disconnect fuel line, disconnect electrical, disconnect any air pump smog shit if you still have it, disconnect vacuum lines, unbolt the damn thing. reinstall is the reverse. i probably forgot some little stuff but its not hard to figure out. this is of course after you have removed the tb.
if you still have any questions, grab a haynes manual or look online. its a simple procedure.
SloNLo_350
05-31-2008, 06:56 PM
I'm gettin' in on that shit. I get a bonus next paycheck, and I SHOULD have my hydraulics by then, so I'll allow myself to buy it. Now the core charge is gonna screw me, I think.
Hell yeah man skip the air intake and headers or even tune and go straight for the ported tb and intake. +10 rwhp owns.
sstony
06-01-2008, 08:56 AM
its very difficult. you should pay someone to do it:rice:
BlackPearl
06-01-2008, 11:16 AM
Hell yeah man skip the air intake and headers or even tune and go straight for the ported tb and intake. +10 rwhp owns.
Headers cost 1,000 plus tune.:3finger:
Air intakes don't do anything for our cars :3finger:
You don't need a tune for a ported TB and ported manifold. I will be getting it tuned later this summer. :3finger:
I'm doing things as I can afford them and was just looking for some help. This will build a good foundation as I modify the car. But thanks for being an asshole as always.
BlackPearl
06-01-2008, 11:18 AM
its very difficult. you should pay someone to do it:rice:
:duhidea: but no.
tanglewood
06-01-2008, 07:09 PM
I'm going to drop some cash on a ported LS2 manifold and ported TB (YES FINALLY SOME GO FAST MODS :joystick:). There is a special on ls1gto.com for $300 shipped. Problem is I have never done this before and was wondering how long does it usually take because I need to send my stockers back within a certain time to get the core fee refunded. If anyone has had experience with it and would like to help I'll supply the beer :) Thanks!
Bring your car over. 45 minutes tops. I've done mine I cannot tell you how many times...
BlackPearl
06-01-2008, 10:17 PM
Bring your car over. 45 minutes tops. I've done mine I cannot tell you how many times...
Thanks Chad. I will appreciate the help. I'm ordering the parts next week so I will PM you at a later time. Thanks again for wanting to help :beer:
SloNLo_350
06-01-2008, 11:02 PM
I was gonna do it, but that $500 core charge counts me out.
Patrick
06-01-2008, 11:31 PM
I was gonna do it, but that $500 core charge counts me out.
They're in Florida, so shipping would only be one day, just have to make arrangements for a ride for 2 days.
SloNLo_350
06-01-2008, 11:48 PM
Wow... Patrick!! You posted something useful!!
I can get Matt to bring the truck back. I'll need it here when I do the trans anyway. Perfect.
Headers cost 1,000 plus tune.:3finger:
Air intakes don't do anything for our cars :3finger:
You don't need a tune for a ported TB and ported manifold. I will be getting it tuned later this summer. :3finger:
I'm doing things as I can afford them and was just looking for some help. This will build a good foundation as I modify the car. But thanks for being an asshole as always.
well i've read that CAI adds 10hp... if it's published on the internet it must be true. I also read on the internet that the porting you are talking about adds about the same. It just seems like a waste to fuck around with the LS2 intake as it's known as somewhat shitty... if you're going to take the thing off put a fast on or something. About the headers, you already talked about getting pacesetters which are far cheaper and still perform. I'm just questioning that you'd start with that mod when about the same cost could get you so much more.... cai, tune, cheap headers. And I'm not an asshole I just play one on the internet. :mrgreen:
BlackPearl
06-02-2008, 07:55 AM
well i've read that CAI adds 10hp... if it's published on the internet it must be true. I also read on the internet that the porting you are talking about adds about the same. It just seems like a waste to fuck around with the LS2 intake as it's known as somewhat shitty... if you're going to take the thing off put a fast on or something. About the headers, you already talked about getting pacesetters which are far cheaper and still perform. I'm just questioning that you'd start with that mod when about the same cost could get you so much more.... cai, tune, cheap headers. And I'm not an asshole I just play one on the internet. :mrgreen:
The pacesetter do perform great, but if I get them, I'd want the jet hot coated ones which after you add everything up plus a tune it would come around or just shy of $1,000. I don't have that kind of cash right now, besides I don't want to mess with the block that much while I'm under warranty.
People have posted graphs showing gains around 15rwhp with the ported tb and manifold. Is it a lot, no. But will it serve its purpose as a my build goes on, yes. This is my daily and I'm not going big at all. The most I'm going to do is probably stainless works, a small cam, and a 3000 stall. I'd be happy with that set up but it's going to cost money so I'm doing it as I can afford it.
Sorry for calling you an asshole. Most of your posts are sarcastic which is cool with me, but it can across the wrong way at times.
SloNLo_350
06-02-2008, 12:01 PM
I'll shit myself if I make 420 on Tony's dyno with this cam and a ported intake and TB.
DustnF
06-02-2008, 12:44 PM
Blackpearl, remember you will not see the same gains with the ported TB and intake that someone with more mods would. You may be able to get more air in, but you will not be able to get any more out without headers. Mods have to start somewhere though and this will be one down. I dont blame you for taking advantage of the deal though....its a good one.
Chase, I would not be suprised if you made 420 with the port work...especially if you throw a pulley on there.
BlackPearl
06-02-2008, 04:21 PM
Blackpearl, remember you will not see the same gains with the ported TB and intake that someone with more mods would. You may be able to get more air in, but you will not be able to get any more out without headers. Mods have to start somewhere though and this will be one down. I dont blame you for taking advantage of the deal though....its a good one.
Chase, I would not be suprised if you made 420 with the port work...especially if you throw a pulley on there.
Yea I understand that, but the gains I was referring to was on a stock ls2 untuned. But like you said, this will be a check on opening up the engine and won't turn many heads at the dealership if something went down.
PipeLayaz
06-02-2008, 04:33 PM
I'll shit myself if I make 420 on Tony's dyno with this cam and a ported intake and TB.
I wouldn't be surprised especially if you have an LS2. People with LS1's are making 420ish no problem with bolt ons and a cam.
PipeLayaz
06-02-2008, 04:36 PM
Headers cost 1,000 plus tune.:3finger:
Air intakes don't do anything for our cars :3finger:
You don't need a tune for a ported TB and ported manifold. I will be getting it tuned later this summer. :3finger:
I'm doing things as I can afford them and was just looking for some help. This will build a good foundation as I modify the car. But thanks for being an asshole as always.
How does an intake not help? :scratch: The intial hp gain may not seem huge but as you modify your goat the intake will come in handy. Ican't belive headers cost 1,000 bucks for your goat. I thought 800 was steep for kooks. I dig GTO's man. Happy modding!
tanglewood
06-02-2008, 05:40 PM
I gained a whopping 5hp from my FAST. This was after heads/cam/CAI/LTs/Pulley and just about whatever else you can think of... Oh yea, cat back too without cats.
BlackPearl
06-02-2008, 05:52 PM
How does an intake not help? :scratch: The intial hp gain may not seem huge but as you modify your goat the intake will come in handy. Ican't belive headers cost 1,000 bucks for your goat. I thought 800 was steep for kooks. I dig GTO's man. Happy modding!
There's a lot of debate on the subject but the airbox is not in a good location plus NO ONE has come out with a real good and cheap kit that takes cold air from the front. Gains are minimal if any over the stock box and many don't see the investment worth it. They make a cool sound though :)
Yea I was quoted 1025 for a set of catless, non coated kooks and 925 for a set of catless uncoated stainless works. Definetaly not cheap unless you go with the pacesetters. But they are mild steel and will rust unless you get the jet hot coating which after you add the tune it'll come out to 1000. And a tune is a must when you get headers on these cars. You can get away with it but only for a little bit.
Dredz172
06-02-2008, 06:19 PM
dude my pacesetters were like $350 jet hot coated and shipped... they are even coated twice (once with the 1300 degree coating and once with the 1700 degree coating), because Maryland Speed sucks like that
slmdLS1
06-02-2008, 07:03 PM
i was quoted 1100-1300 + shipping for my stainless Kooks 1-7/8's stepped to 2" headers everywhere i looked. i think it was ls1speed that i got them from for $912 shipped from Cali. i know its not a huge difference pricewise, but it was significant to me saving over $200. i think dustin and chase have kooks as well, and i dont think i'd have a car without a set after riding in a few.
sstony has pacesetters and thats why everyones getting faster than him.
BlackPearl
06-02-2008, 08:18 PM
dude my pacesetters were like $350 jet hot coated and shipped... they are even coated twice (once with the 1300 degree coating and once with the 1700 degree coating), because Maryland Speed sucks like that
Well they are 494 right now. Plus mid pipes and it's 600. Add the extensions and new clamps (supposedly the new clamps suck)...and tune...
SloNLo_350
06-03-2008, 03:18 AM
Chase, I would not be suprised if you made 420 with the port work...especially if you throw a pulley on there.
I'm not going to do a pulley until I put a bigger cam in there.
I'm not saying making 420 is impossible, I just don't think my car will do it on Tony's dyno. Now if SSTony could ride around under my hood with the fan on the air-box, I'd have a different outlook on the matter :mrgreen:.
nofxrxmxpx
06-03-2008, 10:20 AM
i want to do a pulley and a 90/90 setup... but this will come after paint, thats next on my list as soon at the car comes back up :( :(.. PS i hate life.
Greg Kulbick
06-03-2008, 10:26 AM
Life hates you too. You'll learn to deal with it when you're older. The rest of us have accepted it.
get a k&n drop in and do this:
http://www.users.on.net/~pedroj/ute/vy_ute_airbox.html
and get the pacesetters. I think you'd be happier
DustnF
06-03-2008, 11:28 AM
get a k&n drop in and do this:
http://www.users.on.net/~pedroj/ute/vy_ute_airbox.html
and get the pacesetters. I think you'd be happier
That is a good link. I was actually looking for that the other day. I agree the CAIs on the market are all over priced for the performance. K&N drop in, ported air box, IAC relocate, and replace the actual MAF pipe going into the TB....those baffles are gay and have to restrict airflow.
BlackPearl
06-03-2008, 01:04 PM
I've ported mine like that already. Not EXACTLY but very similar.
sstony
06-03-2008, 06:11 PM
LS2's are :andy/greg:
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LS2's are :andy/greg:
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that's only cause you haven't seen / heard of one with a ported intake and TB. Ready when you are. :mrgreen:
SloNLo_350
06-04-2008, 01:12 AM
Ready when you are. :mrgreen:
So... never?
So... never?
Take your air filter off and strap tony under the hood and lets do it.
I gotta go to the henderson driving school first tho.... whenever I call it say's "Press 1 for honda, press 2 to disconnect" :(
DustnF
06-04-2008, 07:57 AM
Ready when you are. :mrgreen:
You just don't jump in the ring with Ali because you think you can box...
:taunt:
You just don't jump in the ring with Ali because you think you can box...
:taunt:
Nobody jumps in the ring at all. Ali is 66. You get that cam installed? Port your intake and lets run.
DustnF
06-04-2008, 01:49 PM
Nobody jumps in the ring at all. Ali is 66. You get that cam installed? Port your intake and lets run.
I dont need to port my intake. I have one of those shitty LS1s with thos shitty LS6 intakes....you know, the ones that outflow ported LS2s. ;)
Yeah, I got the cam installed, uninstalled, sold, and am heads/cam shoping again....lol :oops:
KillerSS
06-04-2008, 03:04 PM
I dont need to port my intake. I have one of those shitty LS1s with thos shitty LS6 intakes....you know, the ones that outflow ported LS2s. ;)
Yeah, I got the cam installed, uninstalled, sold, and am heads/cam shoping again....lol :oops:
Trick flow 215s and Vengeance Racing Vindicator cam.
SloNLo_350
06-04-2008, 09:52 PM
Take your air filter off and strap tony under the hood and lets do it.
I gotta go to the henderson driving school first tho.... whenever I call it say's "Press 1 for honda, press 2 to disconnect" :(
By never, I meant The SSVagina will never be ready to race.
But I'm all for puttin' the 226 cam beatdown on ya ;).
towelie
06-05-2008, 12:05 AM
But I'm all for puttin' the 226 cam beatdown on ya ;).
GTO says GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR nowwww:heather20
By never, I meant The SSVagina will never be ready to race.
I know what you meant... why else would I talk shit about him? :mrgreen:
But I'm all for puttin' the 226 cam beatdown on ya ;).
Agreed. I can't remember my cam specs but i'm sure the driver skill / experience will decide this one. Honestly I dont care ... just want to race SOMEONE cause i haven't and feel the itch. /hijack
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