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spadoc79
05-03-2010, 10:10 AM
a friend sent this to me in an email...it makes alot of since.

Subject: Joe and Jose

You have two families: "Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families Have two parents, two children, and live in California ...

Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, And gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention...

Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 Per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for His family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now Has $24,031.00.

Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and Local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or Welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per Year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps And welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal Still has $ 31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal Now has $7,231.00.

Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after School ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, But Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Do you get it, now?

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...
YOU are part of the problem!

It's way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!

BUT, IT'S NOT TOO LATE YET!

SO, PASS THIS ALONG.

bk_cauley
05-03-2010, 11:21 AM
It is too late...

Sandy H.
05-03-2010, 11:38 AM
I know several USA born legal, productive citizens named Jose. I don't disagree with the point you are trying to make but I think if you had your name associated with being illegal you might find it offensive.

Just saying.

slowLX
05-03-2010, 12:43 PM
How about John and Juan? Does that make you feel better?

spadoc79
05-03-2010, 01:58 PM
:funny:

BlackPearl
05-03-2010, 02:00 PM
I know several USA born legal, productive citizens named Jose. I don't disagree with the point you are trying to make but I think if you had your name associated with being illegal you might find it offensive.

Just saying.

Oh boy....

Tally TransAm
05-03-2010, 04:47 PM
but Shakira says Jose should be allowed all those things. . .

Slush
05-03-2010, 08:17 PM
but Shakira says Jose should be allowed all those things. . .

She's only good for one thing, and it isn't immigration reform.

Bryan02TA
05-03-2010, 08:29 PM
Nice, but we are all immigrants don't you see...? That's what dumbasses say, not me. I agree with this 110%. And if anybody named Jose gets offended by this then paddle your ass back to Cuba. Haha, just kiddding, but seriously get some thicker skin. I guess people named John should be pissed off because every crime suspect is named John Doe.

Slush
05-03-2010, 08:36 PM
I guess people named John should be pissed off because every crime suspect is named John Doe.

Um, actually I think they won't be pissed...cause they are usually dead.

Bryan02TA
05-03-2010, 09:44 PM
haha, I think you are right. Don't they call suspects for crimes John Doe too? I dunno, may have been a bad analogy. On a side note Andy, where in the hell are u livin these days?

Sandy H.
05-03-2010, 09:45 PM
Okay try this. Replace Joe and Jose with "The"



Subject: The Legal and The Illegal

You have two families: "The Legal" and "The Illegal". Both families Have two parents, two children, and live in California ...

The Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

The Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, And gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention...

The Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 Per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; The Legal now has $31,231.00.

The Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. The Illegal pays no taxes. The Illegal now has $31,200.00.

The Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for His family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. The Legal now Has $24,031.00.

The Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and Local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. The Illegal still has $31,200.00.

The Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or Welfare. The Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per Year. The Legal now has $18,031.00.

The Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps And welfare. The Illegal still has $31,200.00.

The Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. The Legal now has $9,631.00.

The Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. The Illegal pays $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. The Illegal Still has $ 31,200.00.

The Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. The Legal Now has $7,231.00.

The Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

The Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.

The Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.

The Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

The Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

The Legal's and The Illegal's children both attend the same school. The Legal pays for his children's lunches while The Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. The Illegal's children have an after School ESL program. The Legal's children go home.

The Legal and The Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, But The paid for them and The did not pay.

Same story, same point. Except it is all based on a fictitious scenario that never happened.

Most illegals are being hired by American contractors for a much smaller percentage of what they would pay a so called skilled worker to perform labor that doesn't require a great deal of skill. American contractors hire them because the illegals will bust their asses for next to nothing and do a good job at it. American contractors hire them because most Americans are to lazy to show up and put the work in on the unskilled laborer type jobs. But the American contractors hire them mostly out of GREED!

Bryan02TA
05-03-2010, 09:53 PM
Nah, I like the Jose story better. You are right though about the contractors hiring them. Make it harder for them to get over here and fine the shit out of the contractors. America is way too nice. We help everybody else out but don't give a shit about our own.

Slush
05-04-2010, 06:03 PM
haha, I think you are right. Don't they call suspects for crimes John Doe too? I dunno, may have been a bad analogy. On a side note Andy, where in the hell are u livin these days?

I am still here in town, just busy as all hell. How yall been?

madderhatter
05-04-2010, 07:27 PM
Nice, but we are all immigrants don't you see...?
I'm Native American.:secret::D

Bryan02TA
05-05-2010, 07:33 PM
I am still here in town, just busy as all hell. How yall been?
All is good on this side. Same ole story I guess.

dutinsss
05-05-2010, 10:34 PM
people talk about how "Jose's" can't speak english, but the OP misspelled an english word in the very first line of his post haha. just an observation.

spadoc79
05-06-2010, 06:30 AM
i speak it better than i spell it

dutinsss
05-06-2010, 12:42 PM
same here. not hatin, i agree.

RBPOWER
05-07-2010, 06:18 AM
I had a new kid working for me last week and all he could do was brag about how as soon as his 3rd kid was born he was going to be maxed out on food stamps at 1200.00 a month...I told him to shut up becous I was the one who has to pay that for him.. he did not grasp where the money came from just that it was on his card every month. oh I think he was 20 years old..

tedness
05-13-2010, 09:31 AM
so wait...they are illegal immigrants and the gov't pays for their shit, full well knowing they're illegal?

Stark77
05-13-2010, 02:09 PM
Yep, they can get driver's licenses, cannot be refused care at any publicly funded hospital, can attend public school without question, can take advantage of the same local and federal services that we all pay for (defense, fire/rescue, police). We are all immigrants, when you look at the big pictures, but we all went through the proper channels to migrate here legally. There are people WAITING to get in who are trying to flee political persecution or extreme hardship in their countries. They wait years, and the folks from south of the border just pile into a truck and head for the border.