Truck Guys

[93zm6tally]

Thinking about dropping my soon to be "old" block into an S-10 for my son. Need to buy a suitable S-10 to put it into. Would love to talk with you guys that have done this or similar. I don't have a transmission yet, but I'm thinking auto and will probably convert the LT1 to a carburated set up. Anyways if you have experience in this are I'd like to talk with you.

[coonbottom]

i have never done it but the main 2 issues are cooling and motor mounts.
You will need to go with a bigger radiator to handle the larger engine and move the motor mounts.
That is all im aware of...the small details :shrug:

(isnt there a guy here with a strocker in an S10?)

[dhirocz]

I helped a buddy of mine out of one. He did it back when you had to fabricate shit yourself, but now they sell complete swap kits that come with a radiator big enough for a sbc, a set of motor mounts, and swap headers. It can be a PITA to do but it's all possible. I had to drop my engine and tranny in seperately, couldn't get the angle necessary to drop it in as a unit.

[Octane]

oh since we are talking about trucks if you were to put a lift kit on your truck and it is still under wwarranty would it Void the warrenty just wandering.......................... :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

[Octane]

oh since we are talking about trucks if you were to put a lift kit on your truck and it is still under wwarranty would it Void the warrenty just wandering.......................... :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
cuz i am thinking about doing some stuff to it to make it look good ppls... :funny:

[coonbottom]

oh since we are talking about trucks if you were to put a lift kit on your truck and it is still under wwarranty would it Void the warrenty just wandering.......................... :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

it would void it only if you broke something :duhidea:

Ive heard of several instances where the dealer refused to cover something in the warranty just cause a truck has a body lift and/or suspension lift.
Even if neither caused the problem. If they are going to be assholes about it then it doesnt matter whether it technically voids it or not.

..as for putting the motor/tranny in. It might be more effort than it is worth but you could always take the entire front suspension off and drop the truck down on top of the tranny/engine. ..or just put them in seperately

[Octane]

are you positive cuz i think i will be getting a body liftt for it then .......

[shock6791]

Yes, they cannot void the warranty unless they can tie the modification you did to it directly to the problem. However, it will void the warranty on the parts that it replaces.

[Turbonium]

Just look up the Magnuss-Moss Fair Warranty act it's all in there.

[Bullhead00]

BACK ON TOPIC


Thinking about dropping my soon to be "old" block into an S-10 for my son. Need to buy a suitable S-10 to put it into. Would love to talk with you guys that have done this or similar. I don't have a transmission yet, but I'm thinking auto and will probably convert the LT1 to a carburated set up. Anyways if you have experience in this are I'd like to talk with you.

I'm not sure about the modifications you're going to be doing to the motor mounts and such. But, if you're going with an automatic tranny, I'd suggest getting a TH400 and have a tranny shop beef it up a little (or a lot, depending on what you're going for). Either that or maybe find a used GM 4L80E automatic if it'll fit. What are you going for as far as power? Are you wanting it to be around 300-350hp range or are you shooting for something higher?


oh since we are talking about trucks if you were to put a lift kit on your truck and it is still under wwarranty would it Void the warrenty just wandering..........................



oh since we are talking about trucks if you were to put a lift kit on your truck and it is still under wwarranty would it Void the warrenty just wandering..........................
cuz i am thinking about doing some stuff to it to make it look good ppls... :funny:


are you positive cuz i think i will be getting a body liftt for it then .......

^^^^^Maybe look on a 4X4 Truck forum :tu: ^^^^^ TallyTrucks (www.tallytrucks.com) This looks like a good one! :tu:

[93zm6tally]

I really don't want too much power. Basically a stock heads and cam LT1 with a carb. My 17 year old kid will be driving this, I don't want it to be too radical. That much HP in a S10 would probably be more than he needs as it is.

As much of a PITA as he is, I'd still like to see him live a nice long life. 8)

[Bullhead00]

Yeah, TH400 sounds great for that application. And from what I hear, they're so easy and inexpensive to be made strong.

[SloNLo_350]

I really don't want too much power. Basically a stock heads and cam LT1 with a carb. My 17 year old kid will be driving this, I don't want it to be too radical. That much HP in a S10 would probably be more than he needs as it is.

As much of a PITA as he is, I'd still like to see him live a nice long life. 8)

and plus, you gotta leave a little room for him to mod it later :tu:

[cary00silve]

I have a buddy of mine who is in the process of putting a carbed 350 into an 88 s10. He is running the stock 700r4, but I would go with the turbo 350. They can be had for around 500 bucks and will take a lot of shit. He has the engine in, but is still hooking everything up to get it running. They do make kits for motor mounts and such and even special headers. He lives in tallahasse, and I'm sure he'd be willing to give you some resources for parts and such. PM me if you want his number...

[sstony]

i take it he has to have a truck. why not look for another f-body to drop it in--or has he seen the troubles you've had with yourz :ryan:

[cary00silve]

he just knows that trucks are badass

[coonbottom]

a stock T400 can handle 450 hp. It wont live as long but it will still handle the power.
If you are converting to carb then a 4L80E wont be a good idea cause it is computer controlled.
A 700R4 is not as strong as the T400 but it has the advantage of the the .75 OD and a deep first gear. Very good for highway and stop and go traffic.
You can build up the 700R4's for the power range you are talking about.

[96s10]

i can help you wherever you need it. if you want any kind of gas milage though, i'd stick to the fi over the carbed. i know you already know this but i thought i'd just throw it out there.

[brandboZ28]

Mark, I seem to have a knack for finding good deals in the f-body world. I can keep an eye open for you as well if youd like to save yourself the headache of the swap in the truck.

[93zm6tally]

Mark, I seem to have a knack for finding good deals in the f-body world. I can keep an eye open for you as well if youd like to save yourself the headache of the swap in the truck.

You do that.

Mark.

[madderhatter]

f-body = Fox Body ... right ? 8)

[slmdLS1]

th400 = overkill. 700r4 will do fine, with 300-350hp it isnt gonna be a drag truck or anything, justa lil hot street truck. as for the mounts, im sure brian see's a lot on s-10forum about the mounts, etc...but i think it should use the same mounts. it'll bolt right up to a 88-98 fullsize truck :shrug:

mark, theres a cheap s-10 in the kmart/publix parking lot across from the mall with a for sale sign on it. its the generation prior to brians with teh square composite headlights. it wont be there long as kmart likes to bitch about these things. if you choose a different route i have a friend with an s-10 looking for a 350 if you decide to sell your motor, i can let him know.

[Davidz28]

whatever happen to that tyler kid? he had a carbbed LT1 in an s-10. I'm sure he could add something to all this.

[slmdLS1]

whatever happen to that tyler kid? he had a carbbed LT1 in an s-10. I'm sure he could add something to all this.


i dont think he was ever on tmca but showed up to sonic a couple of times. seems like i remember he knows Mr. Bond, maybe he could get ahold of him if needed. :shrug:

[93zm6tally]

whatever happen to that tyler kid? he had a carbbed LT1 in an s-10. I'm sure he could add something to all this.

Julian knows him. He's around. I met him one time up at Carltons.

[Patrick]

305 with a TH350 with a 6" tailshaft is the easiest swap. Some sites to consider are:

www.v8s10.org (Kickass site, I'm registered on there with this name)
www.s10v8.com for some parts
www.jagsthatrun.com

And the list goes on. If the truck your looking for is a 2.8, its pretty straight forward. The V8 mounts actually mount to the 2.8 frame mounts. For cooling you should buy a genuine AC Delco aluminum vette radiator. It's about 180 bucks from s10v8.com or jagsthatrun.com

LT1 with a th350 is the way I would go. If your looking to keep the LT1 injected, check out www.EFIConnection.com - the guy builds KICKASS custom harnesses that will plug directly into the factory computer. You can see some of his work at www.S10WildSide.com and v8s10.org as well. Here is a picture of one of his custom harnesses:

http://www.s10wildside.com/ramjet/rjharness02.jpg

Literally plug and play.

For headers I would recommend Hedman shortie's. The reason you need headers is because of the steering column. Here's an example of what I'm explaining:

http://www.v8s10.org/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=745

First gen would be the easiest for your first v8 s10 project, as the speedo is mechanical, and other little differences.

If your looking for a truck, money talks. My truck is 100% stock, but it has (ALOT of) exterior mods, both installed and waiting to be. I'm not sure what he likes, but what person doesn't like their ride to look good? If your remotely interested, I can give you more information on the truck. Also thought I would add that my dad is a mechanic, so it's in excellent shape.

If you have anymore swap questions feel free to send a PM my way :tu:

[ExtremeMT]

If its a ZR2 S10 or 4wd in general message me on aim and I can tell you EVERYTHING you need to know.

[brandboZ28]

I dont wanna jump the gun but I think he's gone another direction with the build. :twisted:

[slmdLS1]

I dont wanna jump the gun but I think he's gone another direction with the build. :twisted:

quick work there bo! lol

[ExtremeMT]

While the extra drag and resistance created by the transfer case, extra diff and cvs...A fully built V8 making nice numbers in a 4wd S10 will take almost any 2wd S10...While you cant drive in 4wd on the street obviously because theres no slip compensation for wheel speed diffs when turning...In a straight line the extra traction from all 4s going and weight of the front will help your times.

[93zm6tally]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Plans have changed. Just bought a 96 Z28 M6. I know a guy who really knows how to work on these, (mostly from making every dumb mistake in the book). My kid will like me for a week or two, then I'm sure it's back to "hating the Old Man". :oops:

[ExtremeMT]

lol....I wanted a Camaro or Mustang SOOOO bad...but insurance would be too high said my dad.....So He bought me a truck. Its 180 amonth for insurance (4wd is as bad as 300hp apparently).

[sstony]

good choice. all that hp should teach him to drive responsibly hopefully. good luck with the gas allowance and tire replacement fund :-o

[96s10]

lol....I wanted a Camaro or Mustang SOOOO bad...but insurance would be too high said my dad

thats what mine said too. thats how i got my s10 :secret: :secret: :secret:

[Greg Kulbick]

thats what mine said too. thats how i got my s10 :secret: :secret: :secret:

So that's why it took so long to finish your truck... You could only work on it when your parents weren't home.

[Bullhead00]

good choice. all that hp should teach him to drive responsibly hopefully. good luck with the gas allowance and tire replacement fund

It's a Z28. He can get some cheap 245/55's. Great choice by the way!

[ExtremeMT]

Lol...My dad was watching the news the other day about trucks and SUVS flipping and he said he shoulda got me a car. I was like pick your weapon dad, something I can drive real fast in and race through town..or something I can go slow offroad in.

[Slow ET]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Plans have changed. Just bought a 96 Z28 M6.

LT1s will rule the world :wicked:
Seems like these rides are getting easy to come by nowadays due to Ellis

[Octane]

Just look up the Magnuss-Moss Fair Warranty act it's all in there.
i sure will