Poor 5.0

[towelie]

Posting this for Travis since he dosnt have internet

Started the car up and was make this really weird ticking noise like something was scrapping. Pop the hood the fan is wobbling a ton and hitting the bottom of the fan shroud. Some of the fan blades are chipped on the end. Start it up again fan still hitting and drive maybe 200yds look at oil pressure gauge it reads nothing. Shut it off start it again gauge still nothing. Drive it back to store park it.

:shrug: Any ideas :shrug:

[towelie]

Obligatory get a new motor post

Travis I am thinking it is time for
347 stroker
T56
vortech
9"
slicks
spool
cage

Just do it you puss go big or go home is how it goes I believe :mrgreen:

[slowLX]

(this was steven) No way I cant afford that shit

[Tally TransAm]

where is the oil pressure sending unit on those things

the fan may have clipping the wire

this is an excuse to get an electric fan. they are cheap and much more efficient.

as for the oil pressure, if you cant see where the sending unit wire is clipped. pull off a valve cover, unplug the coil and fuel pump fuse and turn the car over and check to see if your getting oil to the top of the motor, otherwise time for a new oil pump

[Snow]

Have they gotten around the whole extra oil burning with the 347 over the 331? When I get rich, I want to do a 331 twin turbo with a tremec. I'll settle for the 331 in the Fall/Spring though :)

[slowLX]

thanks ryan. we are going to try that this afternoon. anyone know the price of an oil pump?

[Gt]

oil pumps are cheap, just a pita to install. Have to either drop the k-member or pull the motor out some.

The fan wobbling is probably the water pump gone bad, or the fan. The oil sending units on the fox are known for not reading sometimes. The fan shouldn't be able to the sending unit wire, but I would bet it was just a bad sending unit.

Do what Ryan said above, and go from there.

[TylerGT]

For some dumbass reason I was thinking the fan was on the crank pulley. It doesnt sound to cataclysmic travis.

[JD]

Have they gotten around the whole extra oil burning with the 347 over the 331?

Years ago. The stroker kits no longer have the pin through the ring land. Oil consumption is a non-issue these days.

[luv_my_z28]

my money is on the sending unit also, if you drove that far with no oil pressure, i think you would have known for sure that there was a problem.

[J8127]

Don't get it fixed, your rollin' in a sweet ass bimer

[slowLX]

chris and steven tryed to do what ryan said today while i was at work and they said "it would take to long and that too much stuff needs to be removed to check it". so i'm gonna take it to a shop tomorrow.

(i secretly want to have to get a new motor)

first question:
how much would it cost, all parts and labor included, to build a 331 stroker with stock heads and cam and shit, just a new/used block stroked keeping all stock parts i can?

second question:
how much to just do a "refresh bore" on my block and a 331 stroker once again retaining all the parts i can?

third question:
how much to do a 306 rebuilt?

last question:
would i be better off buying a 302 GT40 crate motor? link (http://www.fordracingparts.com/crateengine/302smallblock.asp)


**i know it's stupid to ask these detailed price questions, but i just don't know how much all the little parts will cost that aren't included in the kits and stuff. and i am hoping someone has done one of these before or knows how much it would be

(i know i prolly don't need anything but some gay problem fixed but i'd just like to know)

[17TH SVT]

306 would be cheapest, just buy one of the $450 forged 306 kits from summit and have it bored .30 over.

[SATAN]

chris and steven tryed to do what ryan said today while i was at work and they said "it would take to long and that too much stuff needs to be removed to check it". so i'm gonna take it to a shop tomorrow.

(i secretly want to have to get a new motor)

first question:
how much would it cost, all parts and labor included, to build a 331 stroker with stock heads and cam and shit, just a new/used block stroked keeping all stock parts i can?

second question:
how much to just do a "refresh bore" on my block and a 331 stroker once again retaining all the parts i can?

third question:
how much to do a 306 rebuilt?

last question:
would i be better off buying a 302 GT40 crate motor? link (http://www.fordracingparts.com/crateengine/302smallblock.asp)


**i know it's stupid to ask these detailed price questions, but i just don't know how much all the little parts will cost that aren't included in the kits and stuff. and i am hoping someone has done one of these before or knows how much it would be

(i know i prolly don't need anything but some gay problem fixed but i'd just like to know)

Bring it to MY shop so I can work on it. Tire Kingdom on cap. cir. N.E. I'm working all day, read: no day off, through Saturday. An engine in a fox is a piece of cake, done in no time. Plus we'll even warranty anything we do, and I'll get paid to put it in! If you decide you want to go with the GT40 crate engine, I have the GT40 bottom end in my coupe with HEAVILY ported Performer RPM heads (pre-victor jr. era), and you can pick the whole car up for not much more than you're planning on spending on the engine. See post in classifieds! (You'll get lots of extra goodies!)

[slowLX]

well the dude at the shop says that the oil pump needs replaceing and that the "screen" is likely clogged up also. he estimates that it would cost $500 for him to replace it. how hard would this be for me to do myself? also is it worth the money? that dude also mentions that he doubts the oil was changed regularly enough. "so my problem may be more than a bad pump, the engine may not be able to make oil pressure." so i might not really get my $500 dollars worth of investment if i still don't have oil pressure after i replace the pump.

so what do you all think i should do?

[BreBar21]

well the dude at the shop says that the oil pump needs replaceing and that the "screen" is likely clogged up also. he estimates that it would cost $500 for him to replace it. how hard would this be for me to do myself? also is it worth the money? that dude also mentions that he doubts the oil was changed regularly enough. "so my problem may be more than a bad pump, the engine may not be able to make oil pressure." so i might not really get my $500 dollars worth of investment if i still don't have oil pressure after i replace the pump.

so what do you all think i should do?

Take it to Lloyd. What shop did you take it to? I don't trust anyone in Tally.

[slowLX]

Take it to Lloyd. What shop did you take it to? I don't trust anyone in Tally.Lloyd said he would put in a new motor, he did not say he was a diagnostic mechanic. i took it too Johnson's, which was recommended to me by steven....they made his car work back during his LT install fiasco. they are his family's mechanic and have been forever.

[SATAN]

Lloyd said he would put in a new motor, he did not say he was a diagnostic mechanic. i took it too Johnson's, which was recommended to me by steven....they made his car work back during his LT install fiasco. they are his family's mechanic and have been forever.

Never, ever, ever forget.... I'm the best there's ever been. :D It's not all that hard to check, but if this is the Johnson's on the south side near the Fair Grounds, then I trust them. They've been working on my mom's Caddies for the last 20 years (until now that is).

[slowLX]

yes thats them. so do you guys think it's worth replacing the oil pump or should i do something else?

[17TH SVT]

dude i would pay 500 bucks for that anyday. its a pain in the butt to get that oil pan off and def not something you want to mess with. i would just let them do it and hope its not gunked up too much.

[SloNLo_350]

http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7707

^^ That is my suggestion. Buy it, sell the red beast, or save it for parts. Think of it this way... you get a motor AND Ponies :shrug:

Or use that one for a parts car and put the motor in the original 5.slow.

[SATAN]

http://www.tallahasseemusclecar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7707

^^ That is my suggestion. Buy it, sell the red beast, or save it for parts. Think of it this way... you get a motor AND Ponies :shrug:

Or use that one for a parts car and put the motor in the original 5.slow.


A-fucking-men. Buy it NOW.

[redbird]

if the oil pump screen is stopped up it could be timing gear parts

[slowLX]

A-fucking-men. Buy it NOW.
i'll give you $1500 hot cash?? :shrug:

[slowLX]

i'll give you $1500 hot cash?? :shrug:i'll take your lack of reply as a no?


does $350 labor seem high or normal for replacing the oil pump?

[redbird]

i'll take your lack of reply as a no?


does $350 labor seem high or normal for replacing the oil pump?
that is prolly pretty good but try jcswn

[slowLX]

they already started

[SATAN]

i'll take your lack of reply as a no?


does $350 labor seem high or normal for replacing the oil pump?


Sorry, I didn't think you were serious. $350 doesn't sound that bad.

[slowLX]

i wasn't serious....unless you were going to accept my offer...?