Another one bites the dust...

[SloNLo_350]

Should be self explanitory... DAMNIT!!!!!


I'm going for a new record on the next one. Lets see if I can beat a week and 2 days.

[TylerGT]

dude WTF areyou doing to those things????

[SloNLo_350]

This one... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! I never took it past like 5200 rpm, and was easier on this one that I was on the other 3. So far the best transmission I have had was the stock one with 120,000 miles.

When the warranty is up I am seriously contemplating forgetting about overdrive and getting a TH350 with lockup.

[scooby]

dam they need to find out what causing this

[Patrick]

As I said for my sisters car "WOW JUST FUCKING WOW"

[Tally TransAm]

https://www.flp2win.com/store/

[sstony]

too much hp. zz4 owns all trannies. i don't think your tranny guys know wtf they are doing.

i hope you get it worked out by the end of next week. or by the end of summer.

[BreBar21]

Ok, it's time to let someone who knows what the hell they are doing build you a tranny. Get rid of the Bigot.

[4348rd]

that sucks and you are stuck cause if you get someone else to work on it then you will have to pay

[TurboL67]

oh my god chase!!

[brandboZ28]

If you want, I can build your transmission, Chase. Ive never done it before but obviously neither has the guy youre using so whats it gonna hurt? :shrug:

[Bullhead00]

I say go with what Spinner was talking about. The 4L65E straight from GM.

[towelie]

ZZ4 Powah

[lunati397]

hows your coolant and the lines for the tranny going to the radiator is it blocked or restricted you might want to look into that but DAMN you as good with trannys as I am with motor bearings

[SloNLo_350]

I'll mention that tomorrow when I take the truck down to the transmission place for the 3rd time...

[Spinner]

I say go with what Spinner was talking about. The 4L65E straight from GM.

Crate 4l65E. 3yrs 36kmiles unconditional, factory trans. They are flawless.

[cary00silve]

crate 4L6E's are for all wheel drive only. The best thing would be to rebuild his 4L60E with 4L65E hard parts.

[Osceola16]

The next tranny you get...Pop off a cooler line and see if anything comes out. Heat has to be an issue. I've heard of getting bad parts, but damn...Sounds like human error, maybe? :shrug: Whos putting these things in?


















Shoulda been "Built FORD tough!" :mrgreen:

[luv_my_z28]

hows your coolant and the lines for the tranny going to the radiator is it blocked or restricted you might want to look into that but DAMN you as good with trannys as I am with motor bearings

I think i said just about the same thing when the last one went out. :roll:

[Spinner]

crate 4L6E's are for all wheel drive only. The best thing would be to rebuild his 4L60E with 4L65E hard parts.

No. From sallee chevrolet AND GMPP web site.

24221888 - 4L65-E Four speed rear-wheel-drive, electronically controlled, automatic overdrive transmission with a torque converter clutch.
GM Hydramatic has baked even more technology enhancements into the automatic transmission line up with the new 4L65E. This transmission, the latest creation from GM Hydramatic Motorsports, is a four speed, offering all the latest heavy duty components to stand up to the power of the LS6-405 HP Corvette engines. Upgrades like induction hardened turbine input shafts, larger intermediate servo, an additional three-four clutch plate. All go toward accommodating higher engine power output. The 4L65E offers optimized performance, fuel economy and increase durability. This sate-of-the-art transmission features the latest heavy duty components and high tech-electronic controls. The advanced electronics controlling the LS6 engine also manages the 4L65E shift points, providing unparalleled performance and durability, P/N 24221888 also includes the torque converter. (No core charge required on this transmission)
4L65E gear ratios: 1st 3.059, 2nd 1.625, 3rd 1.000, 4th .0696, Reverse 2.294.
Engine Range: 6.0L (M32)
Maximum Shift Speeds: 1-2 5600 rpm (M32), 2-3 5600 rpm (M32), 3-4 5600 rpm (M32)
Maximum Engine Torque: 380 lb-ft (M32)
Maximum Gearbox Torque: 670 lb-ft (M32)
Converter Size: 300mm (M32) (reference), Diameter of torque converter turbine.
Fluid Capacity (Approximate): 10.8L (11.4 qt) (with 300 mm converter)
Case Material: Die Cast Aluminum
Assembly Sites: Toledo, OH; Romulus, MI; Ramos, Mexico

[J8127]

See Dan? This is going to be you when that turbo gets done.


Chase, don't take it back to that guy, go to a fucking place that knows what they are doing.

[SloNLo_350]

I say go with what Spinner was talking about. The 4L65E straight from GM.
Warranty



Crate 4l65E. 3yrs 36kmiles unconditional, factory trans. They are flawless.
Warranty


Chase, don't take it back to that guy, go to a fucking place that knows what they are doing.
Warranty

And I am very sure that anywhere else that builds a transmission and just puts it in there, will see it again in 2 weeks. Something else is wrong, if the pressure solenoid is going out to frequently. But it is true that Tony is not catching something.

[J8127]

Warrenty

does you no good if it's broke all the time.

[slowLX]

damn...

[SloNLo_350]

does you no good if it's broke all the time.
only once ever 2 weeks... and he can rebuild it 25 more times for all I care, he does it quick haha. He'll either fix it once every 2 weeks for the next year, or he'll figure out what the problem is and fix it (edit: or give me my money back). This was only his second attempt, the first one was from a completely differnt manufacturer and died of the same cause.

Oh, and when you quote me... spell stuff correctly.

[J8127]

I keep typing it k-n-o-w, I need help.

[LowBow]

Or, if he keeps rebuilding it to no avail, take it somewhere else (letting him know before hand) and get someone else to fix it. Then take the bill to him for reimbursement.

[madderhatter]

I keep typing it k-n-o-w, I need help.
You didn't spell it wrong, you just used it out of context.

[JCswm]

you should request they back flush the trans cooler & put a filter in-line....
IMO

[v8minus2]

when you go back. tell him his shoe is untied. then fuck him in the ass like he's been doing you.

[towelie]

when you go back. tell him his shoe is untied. then fuck him in the ass like he's been doing you.

Yeah chase you should do that :wtf:

[redbird]

4l60's great when they are right junk when they are bad :shrug:

[slowLX]

4l60's great when they are right junk when they are bad :shrug:post introduction. thanks

[redbird]

post introduction. thanks
done

[17TH SVT]

your truck is not obviously not making enough power to kill these transmissions. i mean there are many a modified ls1 that isnt killing them. obviously the guy building them is not doing a good job or something is clogged in the lines. i would ask for your money back and go with the gm crate if at all possible.

[SloNLo_350]

its not his building of the transmission, and what is breaking has nothing to do with power handling. It could be behind a TBI 4.3 and it would still do it. Also my transmission shares little more than gear ratios with the 2 piece 4L60E. I'm pretty sure I have mentioned this several times in this thread, but it is the pressure solenoid that keeps going out. This past time I was so close to home that I didn't even hurt the clutches. I realized i didnt have 3rd or 4th so I put it in 2nd and cruised home at 35mph. Also a completely different transmission did the exact same thing, with the exact same symptoms and the only common thread is the computer. The stock transmission (before rebuilds) was the only one that didn't do this, and it always had the stock chip in it.

[Spinner]

Warranty


Warranty


Warranty

And I am very sure that anywhere else that builds a transmission and just puts it in there, will see it again in 2 weeks. Something else is wrong, if the pressure solenoid is going out to frequently. But it is true that Tony is not catching something.


Whats your time, transportation, and truck downtime worth to you?

[SloNLo_350]

Whats your time, transportation, and truck downtime worth to you?
Not $2000. We have plenty of vehicles at this house, so transportation is not an issue, and I am actually saving money right now due to not sucking a gallon of gas every 12 miles. Also, the valve body is warped, apparently causing this issue, so a new one is on the way. I should have it back for the weekend, or at least Monday. I also got the new chip from PCMforLess for the tranny with the removal of the lockup in 3rd gear.

[luv_my_z28]

sweet, hope that fixes your problems

[SloNLo_350]

So its back!! And the is good news. I have been converted and convinced. Actually that happened yesterday when a NEW problem "arose". In the beginning I thought that it was something electronic, but no one believed me (not anyone that mattered anyway).
Well yesterday when i went to pick up my truck everything was finished, but now supposedly Tony believed there was a wiring problem. I didn't see how that was possible because it had worked fine on that wiring since last summer when i did the TPI swap. So he kept it overnight to check on some stuff and said it was fine, but couldn't warranty it if it did it again because the wiring isn't his fault. So that pissed my dad off enough to decide that my truck will never go to his shop again, and if number 5 dies, number 6 will be a 4L65E installed by good ol' Sam Taylor Buick Cadillac of Ft. Walton beach per Spinner's expert recommendation.
Now I just want someone that can check over all the wiring and make sure it is all fine so we can possibly get something out of Tony or his warranty company when it breaks (ok if i just dont have much faith).

So hopefully this saga is over and i can go back to running my 14's in peace!

[towelie]

I told you it was the wires the other night and looks like I was right.

[SloNLo_350]

No, it just looks like you agree with Tony's latest theiving idea. He is just looking to blame it on something that isnt his fault so he can charge me for it. If anything I think it is the wiring that he "fixed" back when we first took it to him when it was sticking in limp mode.

[RACER1269]

man i would start lookin in toehr places too. i mean even the stoopidest of tranny builders could keep one together longer than that. whats up with the solenoid, why does it keep going out? too much voltage, maybe some spike? does your tranny have a tv ?? cable like the fox body mustangs have? when the tranny fails is it leaving debris in the cooler? just some ideas.
Mark's Performance off orage ave might be pretty good at lookin at your wiriing. i know my buddy James next door to me can do it he is awesome at trobleshooting stuff like that.

[SloNLo_350]

yeah but i am 2 and a half hours away. And I have no clue why the solenoid was failing... that "apparently" wasn't the problem. It was supposedly the warped valve body this time :roll:. No TV cable, its electronic. And it left no debris, I stopped driving it as soon as it started losing pressure. Not even a mile on it with lost pressure.

[Osceola16]

I got a suggestion, after you take everyones advice and trash the POS...the tranny I mean :mrgreen: Go get a new one and a new set of tires. Take it back to the guy who done all the work before, and do the BIGGEST burnout you've ever done! right in his driveway!